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Subject: Re: Fritz SSS and the future Top P.C. Programs are surpassing strong GM.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:12:20 05/14/00

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On May 14, 2000 at 12:57:15, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On May 14, 2000 at 02:14:10, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2000 at 23:38:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2000 at 22:07:38, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 19:51:18, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I remember 13 years ago when the top program Mchess was reaching Master level
>>>>>close to 2200 Elo by USCF and I also remember a statement from Larry Kaufman
>>>>>saying that it will take at least a good 15 years for a P.C. program to reach
>>>>>GM level at the rate of Processors speed doubling every years, at that time the
>>>>>top Processor was a mere 80286 operating at 12 Mhz at the most. I Thought at
>>>>>that time that Kasparov if he  was still Champion will defeat very easy a P.C.
>>>>>in game in 30 minutes per side. But now that the time has arrived I realize that
>>>>>any of the top three P.C. Programs with any processor higher than 800
>>>>>Mhz can beat Kasparov in game in 30 minutes per side.
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: Since piket just recently beat Kasparov in the Grand Prix not to long ago,
>>>>>and Fritz SSS drew Piket at the Dutch Tournamwent, I can almost presume that in
>>>>>game in 60 minutes per side, Fritz SSS or any other top three Programs can beat
>>>>>Kasparov in a mini match of 7 games using the latest Processor.
>>>>
>>>>I beat Michael Oshiro, who beat Viktors Pupols, who beat Bobby Fischer.
>>>>Therefore, I am a better chess player than Bobby Fischer.
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>Good Point I did exagerated a little when I presume that in game in 60 minutes
>>>per side any of the top three programs can beat Kasparov, but i still hold that
>>>Kasparov no longer can beat any of the top three programs in a mini match of 7
>>>games in game 30 minutes per side.
>>
>>I am not sure about it.
>>When kasparov played against Genius3 he believed that he is playing against
>>Genius2.
>>
>>Kasparov won Genius3 1.5:.5 later when Genius3 used p120.
>>I think that the time control was 25 minutes/game.
>>
>>I think that the fact that kasparov has the top programs and can learn their
>>weaknesses and their games is a big advantage.
>>
>>Uri
>
>After watching the latest game between Van wely vs Fritz SSS I am more convinced
>that even with the clear advantage that Van Wely had if this would have been
>game in 30 Minutes per side and the program is set not to resign unless there is
>an advantage of minus 9 points it is clear that fritz SSS or any other top
>programs giving this same position can hold until the time of 30 minutes has
>passed by the human player therefore losing the won game.


The score is already -5 and dropping.  A good GM could win this game with
5 minutes on his clock, in a sudden death time control, even if the program
had a year to compute.



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