Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 02:29:58 05/15/00
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On May 14, 2000 at 23:54:34, James Robertson wrote: >On May 14, 2000 at 18:08:02, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On May 14, 2000 at 16:32:16, James Robertson wrote: >> >>>On May 14, 2000 at 13:22:19, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>I know that any top GM like Van Wely can pratice against the commercial Fritz 6a >>>>program and eventually learn how to squeeze the positional disadvantages of any >>>>top commercial programs, but this eventually take time and deep calculations. >>>>After watching the latest game between Van Wely vs Fritz SSS, I am >>>>more convinced that even with the clear advantage that Van Wely obtained, if >>>>this would have been game in 30 minutes per side and the program is set not to >>>>resign unless it is losing by minus 9 points, it is clear that Fritz SSS or any >>>>other of the top three programs giving this position can hold until the time of >>>>30 minutes has passed by the human player, therefore, losing a won game. the >>>>reason behind this, is that just to reach this position it would take at least >>>>20 minutes, and again that is if the program does not have this opening. >>> >>>Which is why Anand beat Fritz last year in a 4-game G/25 match? >>> >>>Be realistic. Van Wely had at least a +6 advantage in that final position. I'll >>>wager he could win it even if he had only 5 minutes left on his clock. >>> >>>James >> >>Think about it, in game in 30 minutes per side Van Wely would have never reached >>this position, in reality it took him a little bit over 1 hour. >>Plus you can never compare Anand to Van Wely playing against computer. Anand is >>the only player that I can think of who can still beat a computer using the >>latest hardware in game less than 30 minutes per side. > >What about Morozevich? He beat Fritz 1.5 to .5 at Frankfurt last year at G/25. >What about Svidler? He performed the same feat. > >You make these pronouncements without even looking at the facts. Most players >have not even tried to beat Fritz or any other program, and the ones that have >have done well. > >James I agree with you, James. E.g., I would also expect that Johan van der Wiel can give Fritz a very tough time, though Johan might be weaker than some others regarding ELO. But I know, that he is very familar with programs' weaknesses. Uli
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