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Subject: Re: Interesting position !! Does your chess programs find this move ?

Author: Jarkko Pesonen

Date: 03:16:13 05/16/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 01:24:37, Côme wrote:

>On May 15, 2000 at 20:36:01, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2000 at 13:57:46, Côme wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In this position
>>>[D]r1bqk2r/1p1p1pbp/p1nQ2p1/1B2P3/8/8/PP3PPP/RNB2RK1 w kq -
>>>
>>>Does your chess programs find Nc3!!
>>>If yes interesting is in how much time ?
>>>
>>>Best Regards
>>>Alexandre Côme
>>
>>Nc3, axb5, Nxb5, ..., Nc7+?
>>
>>Maybe programs don't see axb5 as being the move to make.  I couldn't find a
>>program to do Nc3 on my slow computer, but if I fed the position Nc3, axb5, then
>>Amy could work with that.
>>
>>But, for black, is there a reason why Bxe5 isn't better than axb5 (after Nc3).
>>
>>Here's Amy with after Nc3, axb5:
>>
>>[D]r1bqk2r/1p1p1pbp/2nQ2p1/1p2P3/8/2N5/PP3PPP/R1B2RK1 w kq -
>>It    Time   Score  principal Variation
>> 1     0.0     ---  1. Nxb5
>> 1     0.0  -3.312  1. Nxb5
>> 1     0.7     +++  1. Bf4
>> 1     0.7  -2.656  1. Bf4
>> 1     0.7  -2.656  1. Bf4
>> 2     0.8  -2.720  1. Bf4 Qe7
>> 2     0.9  -2.720  1. Bf4 Qe7
>> 3     1.1  -2.832  1. Bf4 Qe7 2. Rfe1
>> 3     1.3  -2.832  1. Bf4 Qe7 2. Rfe1
>> 4     1.6  -2.688  1. Bf4 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Kxe7 3. Nd5+ Kd8 4. Rfe1
>> 4     2.1  -2.688  1. Bf4 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Kxe7 3. Nd5+ Kd8 4. Rfe1
>> 5     3.0  -2.512  1. Bf4 Bf8 2. Qd5 b4 3. Ne4
>> 5     4.2  -2.512  1. Bf4 Bf8 2. Qd5 b4 3. Ne4
>> 6     5.4  -2.656  1. Bf4 Bf8 2. Qd3 b4 3. Nd5 Bc5
>> 6     6.9     +++  1. Re1
>> 6     8.2  -2.544  1. Re1 Qa5 2. Re4 Bf8 3. Qd5 Nb4
>> 6     8.4     +++  1. Nxb5
>> 6     9.5  +1.264  1. Nxb5 Bxe5 2. Re1 f5 3. Bf4 Qe7
>> 6     9.9  +1.264  1. Nxb5 Bxe5 2. Re1 f5 3. Bf4 Qe7
>> 7    11.8  +1.408  1. Nxb5 Bxe5 2. Re1 Qe7 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. Qxe7+ Kxe7 5. Nxa8
>>                    d5
>> 7    13.1  +1.408  1. Nxb5 Bxe5 2. Re1 Qe7 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. Qxe7+ Kxe7 5. Nxa8
>>                    d5
>> 8    21.8  +1.568  1. Nxb5 Qh4 2. g3 Bxe5 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. gxh4 Bxd6 5. Nxa8
>> 8    24.2  +1.568  1. Nxb5 Qh4 2. g3 Bxe5 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. gxh4 Bxd6 5. Nxa8
>> 9    38.1     ---  1. Nxb5
>> 9    43.9  +1.248  1. Nxb5 Qh4 2. g3 Bxe5 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. gxh4 Bxd6 5. Nxa8
>>                    Re8
>> 9    54.5  +1.248  1. Nxb5 Qh4 2. g3 Bxe5 3. Nc7+ Kd8 4. gxh4 Bxd6 5. Nxa8
>>                    Re8
>
>Hello Pete,
>It's not the real reason because after Nc3!! black can play Bf8 and after
>that white must play Re1!!
>Very interesting position it's a pity that you are the only one to answer :-(
>Best Regards
>Alexandre Côme

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evaluation asymmetry -20

              time surplus   0.00  time limit 30.00 (3:00)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                6->   0.92   0.53   1. Ba4 Qe7 2. Bxc6 dxc6 3. Re1 Bg4
                                    4. Bf4
                7     1.32   0.36   1. Ba4 Qe7 2. Bxc6 dxc6 3. Re1 Kf8
                                    4. Nc3 Bg4
                7     1.95   0.42   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 f6 5. Bc4+ Kh8 6. exf6 Rxf6
                7->   3.74   0.42   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 f6 5. Bc4+ Kh8 6. exf6 Rxf6
                8     4.62   0.31   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. f4 O-O 3. Re1 Re8 4.
                                    Qxe7 Rxe7 5. Nc3
                8     7.25   0.45   1. Bc4 Qe7 2. Re1 O-O 3. Qxe7 Nxe7
                                    4. Bg5 Re8 5. Nc3
                8->  10.73   0.45   1. Bc4 Qe7 2. Re1 O-O 3. Qxe7 Nxe7
                                    4. Bg5 Re8 5. Nc3
                9    15.32   0.36   1. Bc4 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 b5 5. Bd3 Bb7 6. Be3 <HT>
                9    23.02   0.40   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Bg5 Re8 5. Nc3 h6 6. Bf6
                9->  35.20   0.40   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Bg5 Re8 5. Nc3 h6 6. Bf6
               10    41.86   0.42   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 b5 5. Be4 Nc6 6. Be3 Bb7
               10->   1:13   0.42   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 b5 5. Be4 Nc6 6. Be3 Bb7
               11     1:29   0.43   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 Nc6 5. f4 Rd8 6. Nd5 d6 7. Nf6+
                                    Kh8
               11->   3:33   0.43   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Nc3 Nc6 5. f4 Rd8 6. Nd5 d6 7. Nf6+
                                    Kh8
               12     5:04   0.37   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 f6 4.
                                    exf6 Bxf6 5. Re1 O-O 6. Nc3 d5 7. Be3
                                    d4 8. Bc4+ Kh8
               12->  11:07   0.37   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. f4 f6 4.
                                    exf6 Bxf6 5. Re1 O-O 6. Nc3 d5 7. Be3
                                    d4 8. Bc4+ Kh8
               13    13:36   0.40   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Na3 Nc6 5. f4 b5 6. Be4 <HT>
               13->  37:54   0.40   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Qxe7+ Nxe7 3. Re1 O-O
                                    4. Na3 Nc6 5. f4 b5 6. Be4 <HT>
               14    46:49   0.39   1. Bd3 Qe7 2. Re1 O-O 3. Nc3 Qe6 4.
                                    f4 Rd8 5. Nd5 Bf8 6. Nf6+ Kh8 7. Qd5
                                    d6 8. Qxe6 Bxe6
               14   230:10   0.54   1. Nc3 Qe7 2. Nd5 Qxd6 3. exd6 O-O
                                    4. Bd3 Be5 5. Rd1 Rb8 6. h3 Kh8 7.
                                    Nb6 Nd4 8. Bh6
               14-> 240:41   0.54   1. Nc3 Qe7 2. Nd5 Qxd6 3. exd6 O-O
                                    4. Bd3 Be5 5. Rd1 Rb8 6. h3 Kh8 7.
                                    Nb6 Nd4 8. Bh6



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