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Subject: Re: Manners and Etiquette in Chess (the Tieviekov incident)

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 06:42:46 05/16/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 09:03:49, blass uri wrote:

>On May 16, 2000 at 07:34:15, Frederic Friedel wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2000 at 06:06:32, Adrien Regimbald wrote:
>>
>>>Fritz' operator should not have made a draw offer in that position.
>>>Technically, the operator has no right to have any interaction at the board that
>>>is not directed by the program - ie. the operator can't offer a draw unless the
>>>program somehow indicates that it wants to offer one.
>>>
>>>Offering a draw in such circumstances is in extremely poor chess manners.
>>>Making a draw offer in a losing position when your opponent is in time trouble
>>>is not generally considered an honourable thing to do - if you wish to be
>>>honourable in such a position, you aknowledge that you've been beaten by your
>>>opponent and resign.
>>>
>>>To make matters worse - offering a draw in such positions could get Fritz in
>>>some serious trouble in the game.  Such a draw offer could be considered an
>>>attempt to distract one's opponent and could result in a penalty (I believe
>>>different federations have different rules, so I won't speculate on what this
>>>would be for this particular incident).
>>>
>>
>>Tiviakov was down to two minutes, and it was clear that he would not be able to
>>win (promote a pawn, trade down to an elementary win) within that time.
>
>Maybe it was clear for you but it was not clear for me.
>I have more respect for GM's and I do not assume that they cannot win in 2
>minutes.
>It is not obvious.
>
> Fritz
>>had more than half an hour and could have easily run Tiviakov down to zero.
>>Frans Morsch offered the draw for one sole purpose: to say "GM Tiviakov, I do
>>not wish to win this game on time". There is no other legal way of saying this
>>during the game.
>
>He could wait and offer a draw only when he see that tiviakov has 1 second to
>finish the game when it is really obvious that he has no chance to win.

Tiviakov had also a chance to end up losing because of the time pressure. He
already blundered the win away a couple of moves before the end. So in my
opinion Frans showed his usual fair play, as he did in some games before.

Enrique

>Uri



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