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Subject: Re: Manners and Etiquette in Chess (the Tieviekov incident)

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:50:03 05/16/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 07:34:15, Frederic Friedel wrote:

>On May 16, 2000 at 06:06:32, Adrien Regimbald wrote:
>
>>Fritz' operator should not have made a draw offer in that position.
>>Technically, the operator has no right to have any interaction at the board that
>>is not directed by the program - ie. the operator can't offer a draw unless the
>>program somehow indicates that it wants to offer one.
>>
>>Offering a draw in such circumstances is in extremely poor chess manners.
>>Making a draw offer in a losing position when your opponent is in time trouble
>>is not generally considered an honourable thing to do - if you wish to be
>>honourable in such a position, you aknowledge that you've been beaten by your
>>opponent and resign.
>>
>>To make matters worse - offering a draw in such positions could get Fritz in
>>some serious trouble in the game.  Such a draw offer could be considered an
>>attempt to distract one's opponent and could result in a penalty (I believe
>>different federations have different rules, so I won't speculate on what this
>>would be for this particular incident).
>>
>
>Tiviakov was down to two minutes, and it was clear that he would not be able to
>win (promote a pawn, trade down to an elementary win) within that time. Fritz
>had more than half an hour and could have easily run Tiviakov down to zero.
>Frans Morsch offered the draw for one sole purpose: to say "GM Tiviakov, I do
>not wish to win this game on time". There is no other legal way of saying this
>during the game.

I believe that this interpretation is true.  However, if both sides understand
that you shouldn't offer a draw when losing on the board, both sides would know
that the draw is Tieviekov's to offer.  In fact he did offer it a little later
and got his draw.

I've never been involved in a live time scramble with a human when operating a
computer, but I've been involved with plenty of them online, and this seems to
be how things work best.

Another rough case is when you are winning inefficiently and your opponent runs
out of time.  That tends to make your opponent unhappy, but it doesn't really
make sense to offer a draw in these cases, since if they had more time you'd be
able to beat them on the board.

bruce



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