Author: blass uri
Date: 12:21:43 05/16/00
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On May 16, 2000 at 14:37:57, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On May 16, 2000 at 13:25:57, blass uri wrote: > >>Hardware or software restrictions do not make things fair. > >Yes, they do. If GMs insist that such restrictions is imposed then it's going to >happen, whether the programmers like or not IMO. If programmers do not like it they will prefer not to give their programs to play. > >>The reaosn for the games against humans is that programmers want to get >>information how to improve their program > >They don't need rated tournaments to do so. Furthermore, they don't need >advanced hardware to estimate if their program has improved and the same goes >for tablebases or various other means. They need it if the improvement is dependent on hardware. It is possible that some change is productive with fast hardware but is counter productive with slow hardware It is possible that some change is productive with tablebases and is counter productive without them. > >>The programmers cannot learn much if you suggest to make restrictions and forbid >>using their programs in their full strength. >>This idea is against the programmers. > >It's not true if you claim that you can't learn anything if restrictions are >made. However this is rather academic, since it's the GMs that decide how it >should be, not the programmers, or am I wrong? both sides have to agree. Not only one side. > >>It is better to give humans better chances by other ideas( like to give humans >>more time) but not to make restrictions about the software or the hardware. > >No, it isn't. You treat human chess players as guinea pigs for the purpose of >improving chess software. I don't like that point of view. people use programs for analysis and for correspondence games and they want better programs. I think that there is no reason to give programs to play at tournaments if you give them restrictions that are not relevant for the humans who use them. Uri
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