Author: Jeroen van Dorp
Date: 15:35:04 05/16/00
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He didn't claim a draw, he claimed a win. I'm not disputing what actually happens, I'm wondering what the logic is. If you claim a win when you're in time trouble, solely on the fact that you think your opponent is behind in material (not "dead lost", mind you), what is the use of clocks anymore? In the extreme: Just use as much time as you want, outplay your opponent with strong and well thought moves, and you'll be safe: who sticks to the alotted time, can't get no further than a draw *you* can claim.. An example: Here at move 20. I'm already in terrible time trouble. I don't know if I can find the right move (Re1) What the heck. I stop the clock and claim a draw. I'll get it because thinking over it I would have found Re1 but then I would have gone through my clock in drawn position. Bad luck Junior! The clock only counts when you're in an absolute won position. van Dorp,J - Junior 6.0 [C01] Level=Blitz:15'. Utrecht, 15.05.2000 127MB, jbook.ctg. Cyber_Jerry 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Qe7+ 6.Be3 Qb4+ 7.Nc3 Bf5 [7...Qxb2 8.Nxd5] 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.Rb1 Nf6 10.0-0 Ne4 11.Nxe4 Bxe4 12.Nd2 Bf5 13.a3 Qa4 14.Rc1 Bd6 15.Re1 0-0 16.c3 Qxd1 17.Rexd1 a5 18.b4 axb4 19.axb4 Ra3 20.Nb1 [20.Re1] 20...Bxb1 21.Rxb1 Rxc3 22.Bd2 [22.b5; 22.Rdc1] 22...Rc4 23.Be1 Re8 24.g3 Re4 25.Kf1 Rexd4 26.Rxd4 Rxd4 27.b5 cxb5 28.Rxb5 f6 29.Rb8+ Kf7 30.Rb7 Re4 31.Ba5 Re7 32.Bb4 c5 33.Rxe7+ Kxe7 34.Bxc5 Bxc5 35.Ke2 Ke6 36.f3 Ke5 37.Kd3 g5 0-1 Of course I sticked to the clock, blundered and rapidly lost playing the rest in uptempo. Again Adrian, I'm not disputing the *facts* you offer, be it that way, so be it. But in that case - remove the clock - because time control has no meaning at all. And last: your observation about fast paced society is sympathetic and well worth reflecting more, but basically has nothing to do with the application of chess rules we all agreed to before playing a tournament. Jeroen ;-}
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