Author: blass uri
Date: 18:50:03 05/16/00
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On May 16, 2000 at 21:10:42, Adrien Regimbald wrote: >Hello, > >>That is wrong. You can't claim a draw, just because you are a bit ahead in >>material, and _way_ behind on time. I have directed many tournaments over >>the years. This has _never_ been in a rule book. There are cases about >>positions where one side can't possibly win, so the other side can't possibly >>win on time. But here, the human couldn't stop the clock and claim a draw >>just because he claimed the game was winnable but he didn't have enough >>time. >> >>What rule book are you looking at? >> >>Certainly not the FIDE rules of chess... > > >I am looking at the CFC Laws of Chess, which are essentially the FIDE rules >(unlike the USCF, the CFC rules follow the FIDE rules extremely closely). > >And I quote: > >"Article 10: Quickplay Finish > > 10.1. A 'quickplay finish' is the last phase of a game, when all the >remaining moves must be made in a limited time. > > 10.2. If the player has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may >claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the > clocks and summon the arbiter. > > (a) If the arbiter is satisfied the opponent is making no effort to win the >game by normal means, or that it is not possible to > win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn. Otherwise he >shall postpone his decision. > > (b) If the arbiter postpones his decision, the opponent may be awarded two >extra minutes thinking time and the game shall > continue in the presence of the arbiter. > > (c) Having postponed his decision, the arbiter may subsequently declare the >game drawn, even after a flag has fallen" > >Fritz was in a clearly lost position, and Tiviakov would have no problem having >the arbiter rule by way of 10.a for him. > > >>>A few other people seem to think that offering the draw at 2 minutes was >>>inappropriate and that the operator would be doing Tiviakov a favour by offering >>>a draw with say only a few seconds left to go. This is also untrue. With 1 >>>second to go, Tiviakov can stop the clock and call over a TD, once again claimin >>>g a draw. >> >>This is simply incorrect. > > >No, it is not incorrect. Please once again refer to the quote I made above. > > >>Offering a draw was certainly a gentlemanly way of handling the issue. Frans >>didn't want to win on time. He saw no way for the human to win in a sudden- >>death ending... had the flag fallen, the human would have _lost_. I don't know >>how you think he could have claimed a draw, unless he had a forced repetition. >>But he had to actually repeat the position a third time before he could claim >>the draw. You can't claim "the possibility of a repetition"... that isn't in >>my rule book... > > >First - I didn't state anything at all about repition in my post. >Second - most reasonable human players would have resigned long ago I disagree here. Most humans will continue if it is not an easy win for the opponent. 2 pawns advantage when the opponent is in time trouble is not a good reason to resign. I think that it is better to resign too late than to resign too early. Uri
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