Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:25:11 05/16/00
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On May 16, 2000 at 22:01:46, Hans Gerber wrote: >On May 16, 2000 at 20:39:21, Charles Milton Ling wrote: > >>On May 16, 2000 at 19:31:15, Hans Gerber wrote: >> >>>On May 16, 2000 at 19:04:16, Charles Milton Ling wrote: >>> >>>>It seems apparent to me that the only way to resolve the problem this game >>>>seemingly posed is that computers (or their operators) NEVER offer draws. Have >>>>fun, humans. (And you won't even be able to protest anymore.) >>>> >>> >>>I think the rules already say that. F. Morsch should not have offered a draw. >>>But the computer could have been programmed for such draws. Then the draw could >>>be offered. But not in a position with -2. This would be improper behavior >>>anyway. Exception technical draws. >> >>To repeat: computer NEVER offers draws. No arguments possible, no debate. >> >>(As far as improper behaviour is concerned, it is always legitimate to offer a >>draw ONCE, regardless of position. Not necessarily nice, but acceptable. GMs >>do it all the time. You'll have to trust me on this.) >> >>Charley > > >Ok, I trust you. But here we have a different case. According to the rules >Tiviakov couldn't lose the game. He had already a draw in his hands. But he had >a won position. At that moment the operator offered a draw. _Very_ bad behavior. >Tiviakov continued to play, was irritated, blundered and then offered the draw >he could already have moves ago. Please stop quoting something that is _not_ true. Tiviakov did _not_ "have a draw in hand". He was facing a certain loss on time. He had no grounds to claim a draw. a one or two pawn margin is _not_ an automatic win. Fritz was ahead +2 a couple of rounds back and still drew. So that pig won't fly. The rules don't allow a draw claim under these circumstances... to suggest they do is ridiculous. > >To make a funny joke, F. Morsch could also have asked Tiviakov "Mr. Tiviakov, my >assumption is probably correct that your name is Tiviakov, is that true?" I >think you would understand that as improper behavior. But F. Morsch did nothing >else. He offered something, Tiviakov already had! He offered a draw. Tiviakov only had a loss. Draw is better than loss. He did the GM a favor.
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