Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:17:41 05/16/00
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On May 16, 2000 at 22:35:51, Chris Carson wrote: >Peter, > >I am leaning towards not counting the forfeit (check spelling). I >think there might be a rule on that. I am checking, but please take >a look also. > >The Bosboom game is more difficult. It would count for a human >player and give an accurate measure of strength. This game looses >significance as more games are played. I am reconsidering, however, >Bosboom chose to play and chose to quit. That is a measure of >strength. I would like more opinions on this, Bosboom has a lot >of short games in this tournament, I am sure the human opponents will >get all the points they are entitled to. I have had opponents (rated >higher than myself) that quit after a few moves because they were upset >playing a lower rated person. I got the points. I have had opponents >that drug the game out to checkmate even when the game was over long >before that. > >Please let me know your rational for not including the game. Also, >should losses not fair to the programs also be excluded since they >also distort the ratings. It seems to me to equal out in the wash. >Just my two cents. > >I try not to set policy, I think the tournament directors do that, >also, you can always recalc without the game(s) that you feel are >not fair. I want to be consistant and fair, what do the rules say? >Do the rules apply only when we think they should and only to the >opponents we choose? > >I am still thinking on this. :) > >Here is the TPR without the Bosboom game, still very impressive: > > FIDE > Opp >Program HW TPR Avg + = - Tot >Fritz SSS 4x500 PIII 2612 2554 2 4 1 7 - Dutch Championship only >Pritz 6/SSS 4x500 PIII 2663 2563 3 4 1 8 > >Best Regards, >Chris Carson In this case, it is pretty clear. Bosboom refused to play. He played a few moves to meet the letter of the rule that said "if you don't play the machine, you lose the chance to win the bigger prize." IMHO he simply "refused to show up" but it was a "practical refusal to play" and not a "technical refusal to play"... I'm much more interested in seeing how the program _really_ does, without all the silliness of the humans factored in. Although now it is impossible to do. I would count the last Fritz draw as a win, IMHO. It couldn't lose with the opponent having so little time.
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