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Subject: Re: Rules need to be written on chess computers participating in tournaments

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 00:45:59 05/17/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 22:55:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 16, 2000 at 22:40:09, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2000 at 21:58:04, Baldomero Garcia, Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>I think rules need to be written with regards to computers participating in
>>>tournaments.  There seems to be a lot of hate and discontent in the various
>>>tournaments that they've participated in.
>>>
>>>The Dutch championship highlights these problems.  The participation of the
>>>comptuer program gives great publicity, but it makes some players unhappy.
>>>What qualifications did Fritz have to participate in the Dutch championship?
>>
>>I think Fritz probably had to win the Wallet Cup, not that I begrudge them this.
>>
>>>FIDE is clearly moving in the direction of not rating tournaments with the
>>>participation of computers.  I think this would discourage the invitation of
>>>computer programs to tournaments.  In view of all the problems that occurred, I
>>>think the solution is rather drastic, but someone has to offer a better solution
>>>in order to allow computer participation (i.e. clearly established rules to
>>>avoid problems with computers).
>>
>>What invitations?  You don't get invited to a human tournament any more than the
>>movie theatre invites you to the show.
>>
>>A few years ago they'd always lose, so there was no point, and in a few years
>>they will always win, so there will be no point.  I think the humans are too mad
>>about this inevitable change in fortune to allow for a lot of events, even
>>though computer vs human chess is at or near its point of higest "fairness".
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>Actually, there are tournaments which are by "invitation only". Often states
>hold closed championships and invite the top finishers from recent tournaments.
>
>This has become less popular of late at least in looking at tournament results
>in USCF's magazine.
>
>A couple that fit this are probably a couple of the big GM events that we have
>watched on ICC.

Humans might get invited, but I don't think Fritz was "invited" in this case, it
sounds like they bought admission.

bruce




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