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Subject: Re: Still Missing the Point

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 04:19:07 05/17/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 23:14:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 16, 2000 at 18:31:30, Hans Gerber wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2000 at 18:14:46, Adrien Regimbald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>  In
>>>this case, the gold is the opportunity to play games against GM opposition.
>>>Trust me, if the players decide they don't want to play computers at all
>>>anymore, computers will never see the light of day again in a human tournament.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Adrien.
>>
>>
>>In CCC it seems as if the experts of computerchess (with the exception of R.
>>Hyatt as far as I could follow the debate) think that it goes the other way
>>round. That chessplayers should be happy to have the chance to play against a
>>machine. In reality the players have a no-win position against an opponent who
>>is still much weaker as GMs.
>>
>>But what is more important:
>>
>>You have a wonderful clear-cut style! I want to read more.
>
>
>You miss several key points.  In the current case, Fritz brought a big hunk
>of prize money with it.  Computers are generally not allowed to win _any_ prize
>money in such events... so humans _still_ win all the cash, even if the computer
>wins the event.
>
>Bottom line:
>
>computer doubles the prize fund, it takes nothing away, it attracts a lot of
>publicity that would not normally be present.  What part of that is a bad thing?
>
>yes, some people don't want computers in.  And they should get their wish.  But
>when the prize fund shrinks by 50%, they might re-think their position.  I know
>I would much rather play for $200,000 than for $100,000.  Particularly since
>the amount of the prize doesn't change if the computer wins or loses.
>
>It is a win-win for the humans.  The alternative is to have ChessBase set up
>their own tournament, and invite 3-4 computers, plus several GM players.  And
>if the GM doesn't want to play the machine, he stays home.  If he does, he has
>a chance at a big payday.  And _some_ human will win the money, since the
>computers don't take the prize money.


I see no need to disagree here. I did already speak out the same. I am not
against computers in tournaments.



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