Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:45:16 05/17/00
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On May 17, 2000 at 05:10:09, Francesco Di Tolla wrote: >On May 16, 2000 at 21:34:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>The rules don't say when you may offer a draw. > >Apparently FIDE has special rules about computer that say that it is the program >that must ask the draw, not the operator spontanously: I would like to know if >the program did it or not before to answer. But I strongly doubt Fritz would >offer draw thinking to speculate/not speculate on the opponents zitenot. > >Some also say that this tournaments ignores that part of FIDE rules. > > >>repeatedly offer a draw to intentionally distract/confuse your opponent. > >No again: also doing it in the "worng way" is not correct. 9 explicitly states >that one must not disturb referring to article 12 I see no "disturbing" here. The rules allow a draw offer at any point, so long as it is made on the clock of the player offering the draw. But even if it is not offered correctly, a single draw offer is not cause for any sanction, because one is not considered significant disturbance. Repeated offers on the opponent's clock would be cause for sanctions of course... but not just one. > >>The offer from Frans was perfectly legitimate and appropriate, > >It depends if it was done at the proper time an in the proper manner. Still >something we don't know. > >> as otherwise the opponent would have lost on time, period. > >How do you know? Was Crafty never busted in a game with only few minutes on the >opponents clock by a GM? So why do you claim Tiviakov was unable to win, whitout >(if he did) being interrupted in his thinking? Just look at the position. A simple pawn race where you promote first is easy to win in a minute. This position was _not_ a simple pawn race or mate. It was still full of potential problems for both sides. I would be happy to test my hypothesis by playing _any_ GM you care to find from that position on ICC. Give them 2 minutes on their clock, give Crafty 30 minutes on its clock. I would expect a tactical oversight and would expect Crafty to at _least_ draw that position with that kind of time handicap... > >As fas as I know he had ~2 min on the clock which can be enough or not. > >>Frans went way beyond what was called for, and should be applauded for trying >>to do the right thing, not villified for absolutely insipid reasons... > >My guess too is that he was doing it for good purposes, but I feel we lack some >information to give a complete judgement. > >regards >Franz So we _always_ assume dark motives??? Seems to be a prevalent idea nowadays.
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