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Subject: Re: Tiviakov vs. Fritz

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 06:53:09 05/17/00

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On May 16, 2000 at 21:47:31, Hans Gerber wrote:

>On May 16, 2000 at 21:01:15, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2000 at 19:31:15, Hans Gerber wrote:
>>
>>>On May 16, 2000 at 19:04:16, Charles Milton Ling wrote:
>>>
>>>>It seems apparent to me that the only way to resolve the problem this game
>>>>seemingly posed is that computers (or their operators) NEVER offer draws.  Have
>>>>fun, humans.  (And you won't even be able to protest anymore.)
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think the rules already say that. F. Morsch should not have offered a draw.
>>>But the computer could have been programmed for such draws. Then the draw could
>>>be offered. But not in a position with -2. This would be improper behavior
>>>anyway. Exception technical draws.
>>
>>The draw offer was acceptable and not improper> Fritz conserved its time and
>>made inferior moves (dont ask me where) Tiviakov deliberated longer made a
>>better game but risked loosing on time which he did.
>>End of story, Fritz deserved the win.
>>
>>Wayne
>
>
>Wayne, I don't understand what you are trying to say. Fritz didn't _win_. The
>result of the game was a draw. The whole discussion goes about the question "did
>the operator have the right to offer a draw in a lost position". No, I don't
>think so, Tiviakov could well have offered a draw if he didn't want to win. But
>he wanted to win. Then came the draw offer by the operator. Tiviakov was
>disturbed, blundered and then offered a draw himself. The operator accepted the
>draw. Now, what do you think?   :)

Well first I am sorry. I just got back from taking my wife for a 4 day trip for
Mothers Day. I mis read the end result.

However I stand on what I said except for the result. There is no rule against
offering a draw that I am aware of. There was not enough time for Tiviakov to
win the game and the Operator was trying to be a good sport in a game of good
sportsmanship. I think the question "would you care to draw" was not disturbing.
Thank you for correcting me
Wayne



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