Author: blass uri
Date: 07:34:57 05/17/00
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On May 17, 2000 at 09:45:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 17, 2000 at 05:10:09, Francesco Di Tolla wrote: > >>On May 16, 2000 at 21:34:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>The rules don't say when you may offer a draw. >> >>Apparently FIDE has special rules about computer that say that it is the program >>that must ask the draw, not the operator spontanously: I would like to know if >>the program did it or not before to answer. But I strongly doubt Fritz would >>offer draw thinking to speculate/not speculate on the opponents zitenot. >> >>Some also say that this tournaments ignores that part of FIDE rules. >> >> >>>repeatedly offer a draw to intentionally distract/confuse your opponent. >> >>No again: also doing it in the "worng way" is not correct. 9 explicitly states >>that one must not disturb referring to article 12 > > >I see no "disturbing" here. The rules allow a draw offer at any point, so long >as it is made on the clock of the player offering the draw. But even if it >is not offered correctly, a single draw offer is not cause for any sanction, >because one is not considered significant disturbance. Repeated offers on the >opponent's clock would be cause for sanctions of course... but not just one. > > > > >> >>>The offer from Frans was perfectly legitimate and appropriate, >> >>It depends if it was done at the proper time an in the proper manner. Still >>something we don't know. >> >>> as otherwise the opponent would have lost on time, period. >> >>How do you know? Was Crafty never busted in a game with only few minutes on the >>opponents clock by a GM? So why do you claim Tiviakov was unable to win, whitout >>(if he did) being interrupted in his thinking? > > > >Just look at the position. A simple pawn race where you promote first is easy >to win in a minute. This position was _not_ a simple pawn race or mate. It >was still full of potential problems for both sides. I would be happy to test >my hypothesis by playing _any_ GM you care to find from that position on ICC. >Give them 2 minutes on their clock, give Crafty 30 minutes on its clock. I >would expect a tactical oversight and would expect Crafty to at _least_ draw >that position with that kind of time handicap... It will be interesting to see the result. I expect GM's who try to draw to do it. I do not know about GM's who try to win(they may win but also may lose). It is not clear that they cannot win. If they are good enough in endgames then they can win. You need to give them the position when fritz offered the draw and not the final position after the GM blundered. Uri
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