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Subject: Re: Tiviakov vs. Fritz

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:44:33 05/17/00

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On May 17, 2000 at 14:23:11, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On May 17, 2000 at 09:45:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2000 at 05:10:09, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>>
>>>On May 16, 2000 at 21:34:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>The rules don't say when you may offer a draw.
>>>
>>>Apparently FIDE has special rules about computer that say that it is the program
>>>that must ask the draw, not the operator spontanously: I would like to know if
>>>the program did it or not before to answer. But I strongly doubt Fritz would
>>>offer draw thinking to speculate/not speculate on the opponents zitenot.
>>>
>>>Some also say that this tournaments ignores that part of FIDE rules.
>>>
>>>
>>>>repeatedly offer a draw to intentionally distract/confuse your opponent.
>>>
>>>No again: also doing it in the "worng way" is not correct. 9 explicitly states
>>>that one must not disturb referring to article 12
>>
>>
>>I see no "disturbing" here.  The rules allow a draw offer at any point, so long
>>as it is made on the clock of the player offering the draw.  But even if it
>>is not offered correctly, a single draw offer is not cause for any sanction,
>
>	Of course it causes a sanction. Under current rules, the opponent gets a two
>minutes bonus on her/his clock.
>José.
>



OK... 2 more minutes.  Had it happened on the wrong clock.  Is that _anywhere_
near claiming a win due to the distraction?

I think not...

>>because one is not considered significant disturbance.  Repeated offers on the
>>opponent's clock would be cause for sanctions of course... but not just one.
>>
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