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Subject: Ply Depth in Relation to Elo Rating

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 13:00:42 05/17/00


I was wondering the Ratings of the Different Mainframe computers of the past
like Deep Blue 1 and 2 and Deep Thought and how many ply they looked ahead?
Also What Clock Speed would a PC need to be equivalent? These below are what i
have found while the Processor speed if on a PC is my Guess.

I have found different things on the internet. Here is my list:
 Deeper Blue                1997   15 Ply  2817 (USCF)   200 Million NPS
2.048Thz
 Deep Blue                    1996             12 Ply (*)14 Ply 2642(FIDE?)
(*2535) 100 Million NPS 1.024Thz
 Deep Thought II        1991                  6-7 Million NPS 64Ghz
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2009                    6.272.000-6.308.000
64Ghz
 Cray Blitz T90              ????                  5-7 Million NPS
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2008                     3.136.000-3.172.000
32Ghz
 Deep Thought            1989                2480-2500 (FIDE) 2 Million NPS
20Ghz?
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2006                     1.568.000-1.604.000
16Ghz
 Cray Blitz C90?          1995                  1.5 Million NPS
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2005                     784,000-820,000   8Ghz
 Deep Thought 0.02    1988             2551(USCF) 2451(FIDE?) 750,000 NPS*
7.453Ghz
 Deep Thought 0.01    1988              720,000 NPS
 Chiptest-M                 1987              500,000 NPS
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2003               392,000-428,000 4Ghz
 Hitech                          1995              200,000 NPS
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2001          196,000-232,000   2Ghz
 Hitech                          1988 2413(USCF) 2363 or 2313FIDE   175,000 NPS
 Hitech                          1985 2350
 Belle                             1983 2263         160,000
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2000           98,000-134,000   1Ghz
 Hiarcs 7.32                  2000 2660(LCTII)2460(FIDE EST) 87,000-123,000Nps
Middlegame
 Chiptest                       1985               50,000 Nodes Per Sec
 Belle                             1978

                                   ELO and Ply Depth
                                      2650     15Ply
                                      2625     14Ply        Only this deep in
the Endgame         (Deep Blue in the            Middlegame)          This
Matches  elo - Ply
                                      2600    13Ply
                                      2575     12Ply      Deep Thought 1989
this Matches elo-ply
                                      2550    11Ply   Sometimes 11Ply in the
Middlegame
                                      2525    10Ply
                                      2500    9Ply           But Usually 8 or 9
                                      2475     8Ply    Hiarcs Looks atleast 8
Complete Ply in The Middlegame (this matches LCT II -200  (2690- 200 =2490)
                                      2450    7Ply
                                      2425     6Ply
                                      2400     5Ply
                                      2375      4Ply
                                      2350      3ply       Hitech 1988   However
this doesn't match up obviously not everybody is playing with the same Ply hehe
haha...
I've heard before how much doubling clock speed results in but it was an SSDF
thing(which must be atleast 150points too high??)   but against humans this is a
different story.

Some of the things i've run across online have mentioned the experiments to
figure out ply in relation
to elo   they said sometimes 1Ply deeper meant like 80-192elo
and that knowledge meant 200-300 more elo   but i am not sure about this i just
want to hear other opinions.   Thankyou






*according to the Deeper Blue - Kasparov Match article in Chess Life
http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/book97/ch3/
http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/chap5/five4.html
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/comphis.htm
http://foxnet.cs.cmu.edu/people/spot/frg/Berliner.txt
see also Dejanews   search for FAQ WWW Hypertext Edition (rgc Groups FAQ)
In 1988 DEEP THOUGHT and Grandmaster Tony Miles shared first place in the U.S.
Open championship. DEEP THOUGHT had a 2745 performance rating. This matches up
 2745-180 = 2565

In 1985 HITECH achieved a performace rating of 2530
2530-180 = 2350

In 1983 Belle became the first computer to beat a master in tournament play and
the first computer to gain a master rating (2263)




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