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Subject: Re: About difficulties to substantiate one's claims (R. Hyatt vs Kasparo

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 17:54:33 05/17/00

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On May 17, 2000 at 20:38:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:


>>1) First of all you must admit that you always hypostated fantasies. You always
>>told us that Kasparov had accused publicely the DB team of cheating after game
>>two. This was not true.
>
>This is correct.  However, it is unimportant.  I had also thought that
>several things happened at game 2.  It _all_ happened after game three,
>after Kasparov had a day to reflect on game 2 using Fritz.  The order is
>_still_ the same.
>
>He accused them of cheating in public.
>
>He wanted output.
>
>IBM said NO.
>

You are still fantasizing! He did not accuse them of _cheating_. How do you
prove that before that after game three, there was _nothing_ in private after
game two?



>You can read?  You did read where Maurice A. asked Kasparov "are you really
>saying that IBM cheated?"
>
>give me a break...
>


Several possibilities. As you know M. Ashley was invited by IBM to work on stage
during games. For me the text of the report shows that he wanted to tear
Kasparov into something Kasparov had carefully left out. The clear accusation of
cheating. Kasparov didn't accuse them. And you can't prove the opposite.


>
>It is not apparent.  He spent the day after game 2 analyzing the game.  His
>own words in the interview.  After game three he started the I want to see
>output.  This doesn't make sense.  How could a computer play that when Fritz
>won't?  etc...


Again, how do you prove that he did _not_ ask for the prints after game two? IMO
he did that in private. They refused and only then he spoke in public. But he
did never accuse them of cheating.



>When a GM (now) asks the question M.A. asked, it would seem to be intuitively
>obvious to the casual observer that Kasparov had made the implication, and MA
>was looking for a careful clarification.


That is your interpretation. I have a different view.



>
>I don't think any of Kasparov's accusations were mysterious at all..


Then please give us your version of the accusations.







>OK.. again, my last comment on the subject.  If you want to post under your
>real name, I may or may not reply.  But no more of this nonsense...
>
>If you want to be the only person on the planet that thinks that Kasparov did
>not accuse the DB team of cheating, you may continue to do so for as long as
>you want.  But what you want to support is not based in any kind of fact in any
>publication or video from the tournament...
>
>Back to your regular job...



I hope that the moderators keep on in viewing your output. You are still
exaggerating in your aggressive style. But you couldn't substantiate your
attacks on Kasparov.




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