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Subject: Re: Is This Year Crafty's Best Chance To Win The World Championship?

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 21:16:29 05/17/00

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On May 17, 2000 at 23:26:52, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On May 17, 2000 at 17:29:17, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2000 at 15:31:51, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2000 at 05:19:55, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 14, 2000 at 22:39:26, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 17:16:34, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 06:23:15, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 05:24:37, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let's take a look at the points in favour of Crafty in the year 2000:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* Popular opinion is that Crafty has recently made big improvements
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* The author (Bob) is the world's most experienced parallel processor chess
>>>>>>>>programmer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* Only recently have people started writing parallel processor programs for PCs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>* Bob is now tuning his program to play at tournament time controls
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2000 could be Crafty's best chance ever...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think Crafty's best chance was last year, when Bob could have brought a big
>>>>>>>Alpha before most people were doing SMP at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which is not a very kind remark for Crafty, if you think about what you are
>>>>>>implying... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm implying that Bob had the chance for a bigger hardware edge at WCCC 1999
>>>>>than I think he will have in the next WCCC, which IMO would have increased the
>>>>>odds of him winning.  I'm not sure what you read into my statement, but
>>>>>basically I'm just saying that I believe that a factor of ten in hardware is
>>>>>still reasonably important.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>Seems to me that Bob will reassert his hardware edge with the beuwolf cluster.
>>>>:)  Not to many of you guys will be able to put together a beast like that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Makes me wonder if we play the same game. I'm not sure anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>><shrug>  Bob's research work is in parallel and distributed algorithms.
>>Computer chess is a high-performance application that is entertaining to program
>>and serves as a good testbed for ideas.  Other computer chess software
>>developers (such as yourself) come from different perspectives, so I suppose
>>it's natural for you to have that sort of question.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>
>Right. I find it more interesting to fight in order to take the best possible
>advantage of the hardware we currently have than trying to be the first one to
>make the best use of the hardware we will (maybe) have in 5 years (or more, or
>never).
>
>I'm a software developper. I fight with my software, not with my hardware.
>
>I guess Bob's approach is as useful as mine anyway, but it's clear we have
>different philosophies about life.
>
>    Christophe

Okay, but the "hardware [you] will (maybe) have in 5 years" is the "hardware
[Bob] currently [has]". ;-)

Dave



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