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Subject: Re: two kinky positions [LONG analysis sent from a CAP member...]

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 02:13:38 05/18/00

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That's interesting, Dann. After some 18 hours worth of analysis on the first
position, the Rebel 10 engine for ECTool (It will truly be great to be able to
have a new Rebel Century 2 engine with personalities AND openings in ECTool!)
saw not much wrong with Qe7-b4. Nothing like the -0.63 that Crafty saw at 15
ply.

Not that that says everything; I also looked how long it would take the
Rebel 10 ECTool engine to find 19. Bf8 in the Nenad Aleksic-Mark Andreoli game
from Mark's post on May 9. It eventually found it at ply 17.28, many hours into
the search on the Celeron 500 MHz where Rebel Century 1.0 took no more than 11
plies, 18 minutes 15 seconds (Reported by Ed, Ed's 1 Ghz Athlon?) and
experimental Rebel Century 2 as reported by Ed was considerably faster than that
in 1 minute 24 seconds.

Your first position again,
[D] 2kr1b1r/ppp1qppp/2p2n2/7b/4P3/2NBBP2/PPP1Q1PP/R3K2R b KQ -

Rebel Engine for ECTool. (c) Ed Schröder

Engine version   :  REBEL 9/10
Hash table size  :  13 Mb
Analysis mode   :  Analyzing next move
Refresh interval : 1000 ms

Game begin

00:00  06.00  -0.01  Qe7-e5 Be3xa7 Bf8-b4 Ba7-e3 Rh8-e8
00:01  07.00  0.00  Qe7-e5 Ke1-c1 Bf8-b4 Nc3-a4 Qe5-a5 b2-b3
00:04  08.00  0.00  Qe7-e5 Ke1-c1 Bf8-b4 Nc3-b1 Bb4-c5 Be3xc5 Qe5xc5
00:07  09.00  0.00  Qe7-e5 Ke1-c1 Bf8-b4 Nc3-b1 Bb4-c5 Be3xc5 Qe5xc5
00:28  10.00  -0.02  Qe7-e5 Ke1-c1 Bf8-b4 Nc3-b1 Bb4-c5 Nb1-d2 Bc5xe3
02:35  11.00  -0.06  Qe7-e5 a2-a3 Qe5-a5 Be3-d2 Qa5-c5 b2-b4 Qc5-d4
07:13  12.00  -0.90  Qe7-e5 g2-g4 Bf8-a3 Ra1-b1 Ba3xb2 Nc3-d1 Bb2-a1
08:24  12.01  -0.11  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Bf8-c5 e4-e5 Nf6-d7 Bd3-f5 Bh5-g6
12:30  13.00  -0.12  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Bf8-c5 e4-e5 Nf6-d7 a2-a3 Bc5xe3+
19:11  14.00  -0.14  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Bf8-c5 e4-e5 Nf6-d5 Nc3xd5 Rd8xd5
55:08  15.00  -0.14  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Bf8-c5 a2-a3 Bc5xe3+ Qe2xe3 Qb4-b6
36:46  16.00  -0.16  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Bf8-c5 e4-e5 Nf6-d5 Nc3xd5 c6xd5
02:56  17.00  -0.15  Qe7-b4 Ke1-c1 Qb4-a5 Be3-d2 Bh5-g6 Bd3-c4 Qa5-h5
      (18.00     Qe7b4)


The Nenad Aleksic-Mark Andreoli position again and the Rebel 10 ECTool analysis:

[D]r5kb/p1qbpp2/3p1npB/1p6/2r1P1P1/1NN2P2/PPPQ4/2KR3R w - - 0 1

Rebel Engine for ECTool. (c) Ed Schröder

Engine version   :  REBEL 9/10
Hash table size  :  13 Mb
Analysis mode   :  Analyzing next move
Refresh interval : 1000 ms

Game begin

00:01  06.00  0.86  Qd2-h2 Ra8-c8 Bh6-f4 Bh8-g7 e4-e5 Nf6-e8 e5xd6
00:01  06.04  0.98  Bh6-g5 Bd7-c6 Rh1-h2 a7-a5 Rd1-h1
00:04  07.00  1.49  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 e7xf6 Qd2xd6 Qc7xd6 Rd1xd6
00:09  08.00  1.88  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 Bg7xf6 Nc3-d5 Qc7-c8 g4-g5
00:12  09.00  1.88  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 Bg7xf6 Nc3-d5 Qc7-c8 g4-g5
00:16  10.00  1.88  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 Bg7xf6 Nc3-d5 Qc7-c8 g4-g5
00:29  11.00  1.88  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 Bg7xf6 Nc3-d5 Qc7-c8 g4-g5
01:12  12.00  2.12  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 e7xf6 Qd2xd6 Qc7xd6 Rd1xd6
03:34  13.00  2.12  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 e7xf6 Qd2xd6 Qc7xd6 Rd1xd6
05:42  14.00  2.10  Bh6-g5 Bh8-g7 Bg5xf6 e7xf6 Qd2xd6 Qc7xd6 Rd1xd6
18:24  14.14  2.11  e4-e5 Nf6-h7 Nc3-d5 Qc7-d8 Qd2-h2 Ra8-c8 Bh6-d2
24:49  15.00  2.25  e4-e5 Ra8-c8 e5xf6 Bh8xf6 Bh6-g5 Bf6-e5 Kc1-b1
25:02  16.00  2.48  e4-e5 Nf6xg4 f3xg4 Bd7-c6 e5xd6 e7xd6 Rh1-h4
14:37  17.00  2.48  e4-e5 Nf6xg4 f3xg4 Bd7-c6 e5xd6 e7xd6 Rh1-h4
59:30  17.28  2.48  Bh6-f8
48:46  17.28  3.82  Bh6-f8 Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1

Last Move : 1.Bf8 (Black to play)

00:00  05.00  0.96  Ra8xf8 Qd2-h2 Nf6-h5 g4xh5 Bh8xc3 b2xc3 Rc4xc3
00:00  07.00  -0.08  Ra8xf8 Qd2-h2 Nf6-h5 Nc3-d5 Bh8-e5 Nd5xc7 Be5xh2
00:03  08.00  -0.18  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
00:06  09.00  -0.34  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
00:15  10.00  -1.44  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
02:09  11.00  -1.50  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
04:21  12.00  -1.48  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
08:27  13.00  -1.68  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
23:14  14.00  -1.68  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
19:32  15.00  -1.71  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5
31:05  16.00  -13.61  Ra8xf8 Rh1xh8+ Kg8xh8 Qd2-h6+ Kh8-g8 Rd1-h1 Nf6-h5



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