Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:20:49 05/18/00
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On May 18, 2000 at 00:16:29, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On May 17, 2000 at 23:26:52, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On May 17, 2000 at 17:29:17, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2000 at 15:31:51, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2000 at 05:19:55, Jason Williamson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 14, 2000 at 22:39:26, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 17:16:34, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 06:23:15, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 13, 2000 at 05:24:37, Graham Laight wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Let's take a look at the points in favour of Crafty in the year 2000: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>* Popular opinion is that Crafty has recently made big improvements >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>* The author (Bob) is the world's most experienced parallel processor chess >>>>>>>>>programmer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>* Only recently have people started writing parallel processor programs for PCs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>* Bob is now tuning his program to play at tournament time controls >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2000 could be Crafty's best chance ever... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I think Crafty's best chance was last year, when Bob could have brought a big >>>>>>>>Alpha before most people were doing SMP at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Which is not a very kind remark for Crafty, if you think about what you are >>>>>>>implying... :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm implying that Bob had the chance for a bigger hardware edge at WCCC 1999 >>>>>>than I think he will have in the next WCCC, which IMO would have increased the >>>>>>odds of him winning. I'm not sure what you read into my statement, but >>>>>>basically I'm just saying that I believe that a factor of ten in hardware is >>>>>>still reasonably important. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dave >>>>>Seems to me that Bob will reassert his hardware edge with the beuwolf cluster. >>>>>:) Not to many of you guys will be able to put together a beast like that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Makes me wonder if we play the same game. I'm not sure anymore. >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>><shrug> Bob's research work is in parallel and distributed algorithms. >>>Computer chess is a high-performance application that is entertaining to program >>>and serves as a good testbed for ideas. Other computer chess software >>>developers (such as yourself) come from different perspectives, so I suppose >>>it's natural for you to have that sort of question. >>> >>>Dave >> >> >> >>Right. I find it more interesting to fight in order to take the best possible >>advantage of the hardware we currently have than trying to be the first one to >>make the best use of the hardware we will (maybe) have in 5 years (or more, or >>never). >> >>I'm a software developper. I fight with my software, not with my hardware. >> >>I guess Bob's approach is as useful as mine anyway, but it's clear we have >>different philosophies about life. >> >> Christophe > >Okay, but the "hardware [you] will (maybe) have in 5 years" is the "hardware >[Bob] currently [has]". ;-) > >Dave As far as big hardware goes. If I am going to hit someone on the head, do I use a pencil? Or a baseball bat? I go for the bat every time. :)
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