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Subject: Re: The future of chess.

Author: Pete R.

Date: 12:31:24 05/18/00

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On May 18, 2000 at 15:08:04, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 18, 2000 at 15:03:14, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On May 18, 2000 at 14:27:05, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>(...)
>>>Personally, I think that failing to rise to the challenge of playing computers
>>>shows that man's time for dominance in the game has passed.  Humans may >actually *be* better right now. But already, the spirit has been broken.  >Hence, humans have already lost.
>>
>>I don't think so. This fight has just begun.
>>
>>In a wider public, some might think that the 2nd match Kasparov-Deep Blue has
>>drawn the final curtain over human superiority in chess. But (as it has surely
>>been said often already) if you look at this match in detail, it shows Kasparov
>>as the better player: He won the first game, resigned the 2nd in a drawn
>>position, drew game 3-5 and threw away the last one in the opening, which
>>doesn't matter much. The only "real" victory was by Kasparov.
>
>The problem, as I see it, is that the *GM's* believe that computers are better.
>Or at least, they are afraid to play them.  And I think Kasparov is probably the
>better player even than Deep Blue, but he himself is definitely afraid to play
>against computers, even the micros [only my impression, I could be wrong].
>
>If the fight has just begun, why are the GM's running in the opposite direction?


I have to agree with Dann here in the sense that it *should* be too early for
humans to surrender.  Perhaps people realize that it is only a matter of some
years before computers prove superior in terms of their results.  How many
players can win if the computers get to 18 ply on each move?  So they don't want
to see the inevitable happen.  Personally if I had such chess skill I would be
inclined to fight, even knowing full well that in the future it will be
hopeless.  After all it's just a game.  But everyone has a different
personality, and I guess these people who refuse to play computers think it does
something bad to the image of chess if computers and humans appear equally
strong. *shrug*.  Or maybe they just don't like that they were *forced* to do it
in this case, and that's why they are pissed off.



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