Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 07:49:40 05/19/00
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On May 19, 2000 at 10:39:02, blass uri wrote: >On May 19, 2000 at 10:32:44, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On May 19, 2000 at 10:27:04, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:42:07, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:37:19, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am planning to publish an updated list list here with >>>>>all rated human vs computer results for 40/2 events. >>>>> >>>>>Please let me know your thoughts on the following: >>>>> >>>>>1. Exclude Performance Rating when 3 or fewer games >>>>> have been played by a program/hardware. >>>> >>>>I don't see why. >>>> >>>>>2. Exclude forfiets and protest resignations (Dutch Championship), >>>>> and games where computers lost due to hardware, IP failures, >>>>> or operator error. >>>> >>>>I would definitely exclude forfeits and IP failures, but not the rest. In my >>>>opinion, this list is interesting if it reflects the real performance of >>>>programs in actual games. Hardware failures and operator's errors are part of >>>>how a program plays. Forfeits and IP failures are not. >>>> >>>>Enrique >>> >>>Do you really think that losing on time is part of how shredder4 plays? >>> >>>I do not agree. >>>I think that operator's error are not part of how a program plays and it is not >>>fair to include the game that shredder lost on time in a winning position when >>>the reason was not a bug in the program. >>> >>>Uri >> >>You are absolutely right. Then, among the problematic games I would count only >>the games lost because of hardware failure. By the way, are there any? I >>remember a Rebel-GM game, but Rebel was lost anyway before the machine started >>developing problems. > >I remember that Ed believe that Rebel did not lose the game because of hardware >problems but we will never know. This game was already lost when the Kyro machine started crashing, and Ed and I knew it and told each other during the game. Enrique >I did not analyze the relevant game but even if Rebel got a bad position not >because of hardware problems it is still possible that Rebel could save a draw >out of the bad position without hardware problems(remember that Rebel saved a >draw from a lost position against smyslov). > >Uri >> >>Enrique
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