Author: blass uri
Date: 09:08:35 05/19/00
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On May 19, 2000 at 10:49:40, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On May 19, 2000 at 10:39:02, blass uri wrote: > >>On May 19, 2000 at 10:32:44, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:27:04, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:42:07, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:37:19, Chris Carson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I am planning to publish an updated list list here with >>>>>>all rated human vs computer results for 40/2 events. >>>>>> >>>>>>Please let me know your thoughts on the following: >>>>>> >>>>>>1. Exclude Performance Rating when 3 or fewer games >>>>>> have been played by a program/hardware. >>>>> >>>>>I don't see why. >>>>> >>>>>>2. Exclude forfiets and protest resignations (Dutch Championship), >>>>>> and games where computers lost due to hardware, IP failures, >>>>>> or operator error. >>>>> >>>>>I would definitely exclude forfeits and IP failures, but not the rest. In my >>>>>opinion, this list is interesting if it reflects the real performance of >>>>>programs in actual games. Hardware failures and operator's errors are part of >>>>>how a program plays. Forfeits and IP failures are not. >>>>> >>>>>Enrique >>>> >>>>Do you really think that losing on time is part of how shredder4 plays? >>>> >>>>I do not agree. >>>>I think that operator's error are not part of how a program plays and it is not >>>>fair to include the game that shredder lost on time in a winning position when >>>>the reason was not a bug in the program. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>You are absolutely right. Then, among the problematic games I would count only >>>the games lost because of hardware failure. By the way, are there any? I >>>remember a Rebel-GM game, but Rebel was lost anyway before the machine started >>>developing problems. >> >>I remember that Ed believe that Rebel did not lose the game because of hardware >>problems but we will never know. > >This game was already lost when the Kyro machine started crashing, and Ed and I >knew it and told each other during the game. > >Enrique I am not sure if the game was already lost. I am not sure that it was lost from practical point of view even if it was already lost from theoretical point of view I understand that it was your opinion and also Ed's opinion but it does not convince me. I need to see games to be convinced. Uri
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