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Subject: Re: Van der Wiel - Fritz SSS 1-0

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 15:18:37 05/19/00

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On May 19, 2000 at 13:42:15, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On May 19, 2000 at 11:13:31, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2000 at 11:00:07, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:46:36, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:37:52, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:29:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Van der Wiel could give lessons on anti-computer strategy. Of course he is a
>>>>>VERY old hand at it, and probably the most experienced of all the players in the
>>>>>tournament. Made it look simple.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                       Albert Silver
>>>>
>>>>True, and also true for Grooten and van Wely. Back to the old question: how
>>>>strong are today's programs? It depends on how the opponent plays against them:
>>>>in the van der Wiel, van Wely and Grooten way, or in the (foolish) style of van
>>>>den Doel and de Vreugt.
>>>>
>>>>Overall, Fritz scored very well, with 5 points out of 9 and almost a GM norm. By
>>>>the way, I think that Fritz running on a P300 would have lost and won the same
>>>>games.
>>>>
>>>>Enrique
>>>
>>>I've just come back and had a look at the game.  Another effortless win by a
>>>human.  Fritz simply had no idea what was going on.   The old Levy dictum about
>>>doing nothing but doing it carefully was effective again...  Yes, Enrique, the
>>>key question is just how strong are today's programs.
>>>
>>>I agree about Fritz's scoring well (5/9), but what if the other humans had
>>>played the slow and careful game, instead of seeking skirmish?  Hmmm.  All I
>>>know for sure is that Fritz is a great blitzer, but not a great tournamenent
>>>player, yet :)
>>>
>>>***   Djordje
>>
>>This doesn't apply only to Fritz, but to all programs I know. I followed all
>>these games with the best programs around and they were all clueless in the
>>anti-computer games. They have a looooong, difficult, way to go...
>>
>>But don't forget something much more important than Fritz and computer chess
>>progress in general: my dinner. :)
>>
>>How was our bet? Not counting the 2 forfeits, the percentage of Fritz is the 5th
>>best in the Dutch championship. Did you say that Fritz would end up among the 3
>>or the 5 best?
>>
>>Enrique
>
>He, he.  I believe that I said that Fritzy would be among the top five... Or,
>did I?  Help me if you remember, OK?  Oh, man, how cunning of you.  To sow germs
>of suspicion into my already corrupted memory.

5 or 3, it doesn't matter. A corrupted memory deserves a Big Mac that I will
mail you.

Seriously: I'll invite you the first time we meet.

Enrique

>***   Djordje



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