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Subject: Re: Do Most Commerical Programs Play Master Level Chess at 5sec per move?

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 06:22:24 05/20/00

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On May 20, 2000 at 04:03:27, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On May 20, 2000 at 02:43:06, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2000 at 02:17:52, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2000 at 01:59:22, Jerry Adams wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 20, 2000 at 01:46:17, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 20, 2000 at 00:03:10, Jerry Adams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 23:43:50, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 23:06:26, Jerry Adams wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I'm just looking for some opinions, I think the Question is interesting.  What
>>>>>>>>I am asking is can a program beat a 2200 rated master if the master is allowed 2
>>>>>>>>hours for 40 moves and the program 5 sec a move. Lets Assume the hardware is
>>>>>>>>what ssdf uses  AMD K62 450.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd expect the 2200 player to win pretty handily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My guess is it would get interesting at around 20-25 seconds a move.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My opinion is that the computer would win, I base this on the fact that I have
>>>>>>seen fritz and other programs solve very complex tactical problems in a few
>>>>>>seconds, which says they don't miss much even with seconds to think. Also during
>>>>>>the era of the 486, computers were beating masters on that hardware, at 5 sec a
>>>>>>move a k6-450 is playing about the same as a 486 at 40/2? Am I wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>5 secs/move on a 450 is something like 40/2 on a 12.5 MHz machine.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm just a 2100 player, and I'd expect to win under these conditions.  Just my
>>>>>opinion, but it's based on my own results against various programs through the
>>>>>years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just 2100 ??? LOL  I wish I were 2100!
>>>
>>>
>>>And when you're 2100, you'll think it's not that cool, and wish you were 2400.
>>>
>>>I do.  :)
>>>
>>>--Peter
>>
>>Curious.  At what time-control do you beat Grok?
>>
>>Will
>
>
>At blitz, maybe I can win one in five, usually with a caveman attack on the
>kingside.
>
>Back in March when I was warming up for the National Open I played seven
>practice games at a time control of 25 10.  I lost 4-3 (+1 =4 -2).
>
>Haven't tried a 40/2 game, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't win a match at
>that time control.
>
>--Peter

Will, what is special about Grok, is it some blitz beast, what ? Thanks
Wayne



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