Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 10:00:55 05/20/00
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On May 20, 2000 at 09:22:24, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On May 20, 2000 at 04:03:27, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On May 20, 2000 at 02:43:06, Will Singleton wrote: >> >>>On May 20, 2000 at 02:17:52, Peter Kappler wrote: >>> >>>>On May 20, 2000 at 01:59:22, Jerry Adams wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 20, 2000 at 01:46:17, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 20, 2000 at 00:03:10, Jerry Adams wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 23:43:50, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 23:06:26, Jerry Adams wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm just looking for some opinions, I think the Question is interesting. What >>>>>>>>>I am asking is can a program beat a 2200 rated master if the master is allowed 2 >>>>>>>>>hours for 40 moves and the program 5 sec a move. Lets Assume the hardware is >>>>>>>>>what ssdf uses AMD K62 450. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'd expect the 2200 player to win pretty handily. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My guess is it would get interesting at around 20-25 seconds a move. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>--Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My opinion is that the computer would win, I base this on the fact that I have >>>>>>>seen fritz and other programs solve very complex tactical problems in a few >>>>>>>seconds, which says they don't miss much even with seconds to think. Also during >>>>>>>the era of the 486, computers were beating masters on that hardware, at 5 sec a >>>>>>>move a k6-450 is playing about the same as a 486 at 40/2? Am I wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>5 secs/move on a 450 is something like 40/2 on a 12.5 MHz machine. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm just a 2100 player, and I'd expect to win under these conditions. Just my >>>>>>opinion, but it's based on my own results against various programs through the >>>>>>years. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>--Peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just 2100 ??? LOL I wish I were 2100! >>>> >>>> >>>>And when you're 2100, you'll think it's not that cool, and wish you were 2400. >>>> >>>>I do. :) >>>> >>>>--Peter >>> >>>Curious. At what time-control do you beat Grok? >>> >>>Will >> >> >>At blitz, maybe I can win one in five, usually with a caveman attack on the >>kingside. >> >>Back in March when I was warming up for the National Open I played seven >>practice games at a time control of 25 10. I lost 4-3 (+1 =4 -2). >> >>Haven't tried a 40/2 game, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't win a match at >>that time control. >> >>--Peter > >Will, what is special about Grok, is it some blitz beast, what ? Thanks >Wayne It's just a program I wrote. Much weaker than commercial programs. "finger Grok" on ICC for more info. --Peter
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