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Subject: Re: Deep-Blue vs Kasparov, 2.game,

Author: blass uri

Date: 15:49:00 05/21/00

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On May 21, 2000 at 17:02:02, Marcos Christensen wrote:

>On May 20, 2000 at 07:11:31, Terje Vagle wrote:
>
>>1r6/5kp1/RqQb1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp1B3/2P4P/6P1/5K2 b - -
>>
>>After 45. Ra6, Fritz suggests Qe3 for black and evaluates the position as 0,94.
>>It does not seem to find the famous draw-line for Kasparov.
>>10 hours analysis on PIII-600, and 28006383 KN evaluated
>>
>>Does any other program find the draw-line?
>>
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>
>>Terje
>    I thought that even deeper blue didnt saw the draw! Maybe I'm wrong

Deeper blue did not see the draw but it does not change the fact that people
expect other programs to be better than deeper blue.

I believe that the estimate that program will need 10 years to get to the level
of deeper blue is wrong because deeper blue did serious search errors like not
seeing the draw and the fact that other programs do the same search error is
going to change in the future.

We will never know when programs are at the same level of deeper blue because
deeper blue had the advantage of being unknown when it played against kasparov
when other programs will not have the same advantage(kasparov will not agree to
play them in the same conditions.

The first program+hardware to win kasparov must be clearly better than deeper
blue.

Uri



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