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Subject: Re: Validity of self-play testing

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 07:03:14 05/22/00

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On May 22, 2000 at 03:22:37, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>Recently I've noticed that my program tends to overvalue pawns, so I've been
>playing with reducing the pawn value.  How does one test such a change?  Not
>easily thats for sure!
>
>One thing I did was play 150 games vs the old version (new version scored 56% -
>yay), but I'm a little suspicious about how useful this information is.  For
>starters the time control was fast (2min + 2sec inc, on P133), although does
>this really matter for this type of change?
>
>I guess I'll probably just go with the new version and keep an eye on its play
>on ICC...
>
>cheers,
>Peter

The value of pawns can vary wildly in accordance with the structure most
especially. Unless the value of the actual pawns (material values) is
disproportianate in relation to the other pieces, I would look more closely at
the value of the surrounding positional factors and their interaction with each
other. In other words not just the base value of doubled pawns, but how this
will be modified when in conjunction with other aspects. Many positional
aspects/problems change in intensity depending on the presence of others (I'm
trying to be clear but this is beginning to sound like stereo instructions...).
A classic one is the pair of isolated doubled pawns on an open file. Take a pair
of doubled pawns, it's bad though how bad can depend. Isolated pawns are bad
though they can also procure greater piece freedom (Baburin wrote a whole book
just on the isolani d-pawn) but with doubled isolanis, you're in a whole lot
more trouble. Put them on an open file, and you might even be better off if you
were down those pawns (Pachman shows a great game illustrating this in 'The
Complete Strategy' Vol.2). In a sense, the value of the pawns here has changed
greatly, but what is changing the eval isn't the value of the pawns but the
positional factors surrounding it. Still, I am no programmer so I could be way
off, though the above does seem logical.

                                     Albert Silver



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