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Subject: Re: A New Self-Play Experiment -- Diminishing Returns Shown with 95% Conf.

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 12:49:34 05/25/00

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On May 25, 2000 at 14:17:37, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On May 25, 2000 at 13:33:48, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:
>
>>>>Which reasons do you have to doubt that "Fritz 6" against
>>>>itself at any same depth "X <=> X" exhibits significantly
>>>>different behaviour than at depth "8 <=> 8"?
>>>
>>>But the same question can be asked of your experiment.
>>
>>There is an important difference -- in the case of "X <=> X"
>>at any depth X you always pit two _identical_ opponents against
>>each other which is not true for "X <=> X+1".
>>
>>Insisting on more than one calibration match essentially assumes
>>that the Black/White behaviour of the self-playing program (i.e.,
>>"Fritz 6" in this case) changes with iteration depth. This might
>>indeed be possible but it is so unlikely that I did not deem it
>>worthwhile the effort to test. The paragraph on "Engine
>>Calibration" already says so.
>>
>>>Why would you believe
>>>that the "8 <=> 9" ply results would vary from the "11 <=> 12" ply results?
>>
>>I did not believe it -- that is why I ran the experiment.
>
>And now you do not believe that the "X <=> X" results would vary. Sounds to me
>like you should test this for the same reason that you did the "X <=> X+1" test.
>
>-Tom


I can't think of any reason why the result of X:X matches (between the same
engine) would vary with depth.

What could possibly cause this?

--Peter




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