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Subject: Re: A New Self-Play Experiment -- Diminishing Returns Shown with 95% Conf.

Author: Ernst A. Heinz

Date: 16:14:10 05/25/00

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>>>Sounds to me like you should test this for the same reason
>>>that you did the "X <=> X+1" test.
>>
>>Sounds to me that you still do not accept or understand the
>>qualitative difference between the cases ...
>>
>>=Ernst=
>
>I'm not even suggesting that the cases are remotely similar.
>
>I'm simply continuing the point of this thread, namely, you noticed that as
>depth increases, the number of draws increases and the number of wins decreases.
>Your conclusion is that this behavior is due to unequal depths. But wouldn't it
>be interesting if the behavior also occurred with equal depths?
>
>Here's the problem in my mind:
>You didn't believe that "X <=> X+1" would vary with depth, so you did an
>experiment and wrote a paper.
>You don't believe that "X <=> X" varies with depth, so you are dimissing the
>possibility with curt remarks and implications that I don't understand the
>problem.

Tom:

Before going into your usual and predictable mode of
"fight the academic paper writers", I urge you to
read carefully what I wrote. My statement was that
you _either_ do not accept _or_ do not understand
the qualitative difference.

Hence, your aggressive rhetoric is quite inappropriate
IMO. Obviously, you do not accept it -- fine with me,
case closed.

Bruce's placebo example and my paragraph "Engine
Calibration" explain why most people would deem it
hardly worthwhile the effort to play all "X <=> X"
control matches.

If you think that these missing matches put a severe
dent into my interpretation of the experimental
results, so be it. I can certainly live with it and
happily agree to disagree with you on this point.

=Ernst=



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