Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 11:01:48 05/26/00
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On May 26, 2000 at 13:53:26, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>On May 26, 2000 at 13:21:24, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:
>
>>Dear Fellow Computer-Chess Enthusiasts,
>>
>>I have just read Don Beal's latest report about the current
>>financial and membership situation of the "International
>>Computer-Chess Association" (ICCA).
>>
>>The alarmingly low number of members and, in particular, its
>>steady demise over the years aroused my attention.
>>
>>Given the fact that the numbers of computer-chess lovers and
>>especially programmers here on CCC rather seems to _grow_
>>every day, I am somewhat confused about the ever declining
>>ICCA membership.
>>
>>Hence, I sincerely like to urge you all to _visit_ the WWW
>>pages of the ICCA at http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~icca/, _sign_
>>up as new members as quickly as possible, and _order_ all
>>back issues of the ICCA Journal immediately !!!
>>
>>ICCA membership and the back issues of the ICCA Journal are
>>definitely worth the money for any serious computer-chess fan.
>>
>>Please do not hesitate and sign up as an ICCA member today!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>=Ernst=
>>
>>P.S.
>>My sincere thanks and appreciation to all individuals who
>>do voluntary work and/or have contributed to the well-being
>>of the ICCA in other ways since its inauguration.
>
>The ICCA needs to establish a presence within the internet computer chess
>community. They need to have someone here, answering questions, discussing
>events, posting abstracts of articles, bringing up topics for possible
>submissions, and generally interacting socially.
>
>As of now there is a wall between the internet community and the ICCA. Their
>journal is not really online, and you won't find out what is in it unless you
>have a subscription. None of the ICCA officers posts here. The articles are
>rarely discussed. The tournaments are rarely announced by ICCA board members.
>The ICCA does not solicit ideas or opinions from us about anything. The
>internet revolution has been completely ignored by the ICCA, they can't even get
>the games at their tournaments on-line, and it's always a struggle simply to
>send email from an ICCA event.
>
>This place is an obvious breeding ground for new ICCA members, but it is
>completely ignored by the ICCA, as apparently is the usenet group.
>
>All of this would have been excusable in 1994, but in the year 2000 any
>organization that doesn't take minimal steps to plug in, and be perceived as
>plugged in, is going to suffer diminished relevence, as all the communication
>channels bypass it like a river changing its course. You can't even pay for
>your subscription on-line, you have to send a check international mail to the
>UK. They should at least have a big banner page about accepting payments via
>PayPal or something like that.
>
>The first line of your message says it all: "Dear Fellow Computer-Chess
>Enthusiasts". We are computer-chess enthusiasts here. We are enthusiastic.
>But where is the ICCA? Are they not enthusiastic? Why aren't they here? Do
>they really have so little time or interest that they contribute near to zero
>topics in this forum over the past several years? If this is so, and it can't
>be fixed via infusion of new board members, the organization is going to
>continue to decline.
>
>In the past some ICCA officers have tried to participate in usenet, and have
>attracted attention from people who have personal grievances against the ICCA,
>or who seem to be generally in favor of maximizing entropy everywhere.
>
>Things have changed, so I'd like to invite the ICCA to try again. The people
>who were causing trouble don't seem to be around here much, and can be taken
>care of if they get out of hand. Also, these troubles can be endured for the
>good of the organization.
>
>I am especially disappointed that Martin Zentner doesn't participate here, since
>he is our programmer representative on the board, and he is new blood in the
>ICCA, and would be expected to be naturally more energetic. Speaking of Martin,
>he isn't even listed on the ICCA web page as being a member of the board.
>
>Please feel free to forward this to ICCA board members as appropriate, since
>they don't seem to be here.
>
>bruce
100% agree, Bruce.
Nowadays, you are on the Net or you die. Period.
And that reduces communication costs. So I definitely do not understand why they
are not here.
Christophe
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