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Subject: Re: I believe that chess programs are at IM level in correspondence games

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 12:10:49 05/28/00

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On May 28, 2000 at 12:21:02, blass uri wrote:

>On May 28, 2000 at 09:20:47, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>On May 27, 2000 at 23:35:09, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On May 27, 2000 at 23:22:20, blass uri wrote:
>>><snipped>
>>>>I believe that computer programs are at IM level inspite of the fact that the
>>>>IM's have the right to use programs to help them and that my level is better
>>>>than the average IM level at correspondence games.
>>>
>>>I can add that I believe that most chess players can be better than the average
>>>IM in correspondence games when both sides can use programs if they know to give
>>>programs many hours to calculate and are careful not to trust programs only in a
>>>small number of cases when they are sure that the program is wrong.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I agree, a chess player with FIDE rating around 2000 ELO, that knows as using
>>in an appropriate way the team Human+Computer, can be at the level of a IM
>>ICCF.
>
>My claim was that a computer with no help can be at the level of an average IM
>ICCF.
>
>I believe that a computer with help can be at better level(maybe GM level)
>
>My experience that in my case human+computer has better score than an IM
>
>The IM has 4.5 out of 6 and one game that he is going to lose against me and
>I have 4 out of 4 and 2 games that I am going to win and one that I am probably
>going to draw but I still try to win.
>
>
>
>
>
>>I think that the best for the team human+computer is:
>>
>>1. To give a long time so that only the program analyzes
>>   the position.
>>2. To analyze for a long time, with the help of the program,
>>   the chosen program move, and other moves that are interesting in the
>>   player's opinion.
>>3. Not to participate simultaneously of many tournaments.
>>
>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>
>I agree
>
>Uri

Sorry, I forgot to write that , based in your experience at Israel
Correspondence Champhionship, computers are at the same IM ICCF level.
Senior Master Stephen Ham (ICCF 2508) are playng against computers, and
we can see that is not easy to win.

Paulo



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