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Subject: Re: The ICCA Needs *YOU* as New Members *NOW* !!!

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 22:29:55 05/28/00

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On May 27, 2000 at 03:44:17, Frederic Friedel wrote:

>On May 26, 2000 at 21:49:42, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2000 at 18:39:58, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe ICCA need us, but do we need ICCA? Reasons given by Bruce seems to me
>>>devastating. Looks like ICC wants to kill himself -or itself?- with his mighty
>>>parade of "we do not care of internet at all".
>>
>>I can bitch about the ICCA occasionally, but I'm glad it exists and I wish it
>>was thriving, rather than slowly contracting.
>>
>>I think the situation might improve if people from the ICCA were more actively
>>involved in places like this, Gambitsoft's forum, the CSS forum, etc.  As is
>>they inhabit the academic world, which isn't going to get you very far at two
>>copies per university.
>>
>>They need to go where the people are, and there are a big bunch of them here.
>>You are more likely to send money to someone if you know them, you know what
>>they are up to, etc.
>>
>
>Perhaps you remember, Bruce, around the time of the World Micro in Jakarta I
>believ, when Marlsand, Beal and a couple of others from the ICCA tried to argue
>some points on r.g.c.c. As was the case with many others it took a couple of
>weeks for them to reach the decision never ever under any circumstances to visit
>such a place again. A wrong decision no doubt, from the point of view of
>recruiting some new members for the ICCA, but in some ways understandably if you
>are not born with nerves of steel. With a few notable exceptions professors at
>universities usually aren't.
>
>I'm sure you remember.

I'm not so sure that it really is just about nerves.  Part of it's also about
benefit.  With someone who's involved in producing commercial chess products, as
a program author or a distributor or whatever, there's a certain amount of value
to being present -- like advertising, in a way.  That same value to an academic
going about their research isn't there, but then again, it has validity in the
context of a having a presence for ICCA, and I think there are other benefits
that academics would get out of it.

Dave



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