Author: blass uri
Date: 22:40:08 05/30/00
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On May 30, 2000 at 21:43:12, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 30, 2000 at 17:54:45, Joshua Lee wrote: > >>On May 30, 2000 at 17:02:40, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On May 30, 2000 at 16:51:08, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>I just noticed on ssdf rating list details, that hiarcs7.32 on 450mhz. beat >>>>fritz 3 on 90mhz. 18.5 to 3.5. That fritz was very similar to the exact thing >>>>which beat deep blue at the time.ah!!!! so what do you say to that? >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>>I say that it is less than 90% and I read that Deep thought(not deep blue) got >>>more than 90% against Fritz3(p90) >>> >>>I do not know if to believe to the last claim because they did not do the games >>>public and I have no idea if the games are tournament time control or faster >>>time control(I am interested only in tournament time control games). >>> >>>Uri >>How about Hiarcs on my Athlon 800 Clocked to 880Mhz? >>I think if it is still taking Hiarcs on Pos 3 of the LCTII test 49minutes to >>solve it at 11ply and Deep Thought of 1989 which played Kasparov was searching >>2M nps and 12Ply in 40/2 then Most computers would in fact win a game or two but >>not a match. also Deep Thought of 1988 at 750,000 nodes per second would be >>better but i have looked at games of the pre 1990 computers and can only say >>that Hiarcs has to be better than some of those computers because it can spot >>the mistakes right off the bat and wouldn't play the loosing move in the first >>place. I'll find the game.... other than that my reasoning was just that the >>opening books caused those programs to lose. >> >>maybe everyone interested should have their respective software analyze older >>games like that of Cray Blitz and Hitech. > > >I did this for the 1986 WCCC event (Cray Blitz only). I was amazed that Crafty >did not find one single tactical blunder, even though Crafty of today is >searching far faster than CB of 1986 (we were doing about 160K nodes per second >back then on an 8 cpu YMP I believe). I used "annotate" for each game played. > >Chris whittington raised the question of a really ugly looking move Bh7 against >Bobby I think. And he criticized it endlessly. And then we discovered that it >was forced and CSTal also liked the _same_ move. :) > >That says a lot about the robustness of a good 1986 search on pretty good 1986 >hardware. It is easy to reproduce the test since crafty will annotate a >collection of PGN game scores (in a single file) at one batch run, >automatically. > >I think you will find that the tactical mistakes of the 1986 supercomputers are >_very_ hard to find with today's PC machines. Tactical mistakes of deep thought are not hard to find with today PC's program. The last one was against Fritz3 but I found more mistakes in some games that they lost or did not win. Uri
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