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Subject: Re: I'll join ICCA if...

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 13:56:37 05/31/00

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On May 30, 2000 at 15:47:41, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On May 30, 2000 at 10:04:43, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2000 at 01:16:18, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On May 29, 2000 at 18:12:30, Don Beal wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 29, 2000 at 17:32:00, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>On May 29, 2000 at 13:51:40, Don Beal wrote:
>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>Now some of my opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like other readers of the CCC forum we choose whether to, when, and
>>>>>>when not, to read CCC messages.  I personally think it is not
>>>>>>reasonable of CCC members to expect that any message about the ICCA
>>>>>>will receive an ICCA response the same day.  So complaints about
>>>>>>"the ICCA should be here" I regard as mischief-making.  I AM here.
>>>>>>What's your grudge?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you missed the point. Nobody (that I noticed) was complaining
>>>>>about the time it takes for the ICCA to reply to a post here. The
>>>>>complaint is that the ICCA does not have a "presence" here.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, it is reasonable to ask for more ICCA "presence" here.
>>>>
>>>>I think it would be helpful to distinguish between the ICCA board
>>>>and the ICCA.  The ICCA is _all_ its members as well as the board
>>>>members.  I'd like to encourage ICCA members to discuss ICCA matters
>>>>here. It doesn't have to be board members doing all the posting.
>>>>ICCA members could use this forum to discuss how to enhance the ICCA.
>>>>(BUT - please don't post "wish lists" that "someone else" "could do".
>>>>Much more welcome would be ideas combined with an offer that the poster
>>>>would do them!!)
>>>>
>>>>>I don't recall ever seeing any CCC posts made by Levy, Newborn, or vd Herik.
>>>>
>>>>They don't subscribe to this forum.  That's their choice.  Yes,
>>>>contributions here from them would be beneficial, but they do other
>>>>things of benefit to the CC community with their time.
>>>>
>>>>>To reiterate Bruce's point, the bare minimum of activity would be to announce
>>>>>ICCA events here. Every time an event nears, there is a huge mass of confusion
>>>>>about the event on CCC. This is unnecessary confusion if the ICCA is here (as
>>>>>you claim).
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately that often reflects lack of positive information to post.
>>>>For example I'm still waiting to hear if we've got the sponsorship for
>>>>the WMCCC planned for August 2000 at the planned Computer Olympiad.
>>>>Sometimes we don't hear until the last minute.  The sponsorship for the
>>>>WCCC last year was still being negotiated months after the "deadline" we
>>>>had initially set, and after the date we should have been notifying
>>>>participants about the arrangements.
>>>>
>>>>Don Beal.
>>>
>>>Don,
>>>
>>>Perhaps you can search (ask) for someone who is qualified and is willing
>>>to improve and maintain the ICCA web-site. For instance I do believe the
>>>least the ICCA should have is its own message board.
>>>
>>>Keep up the good work.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>I aggree, a message board would be a great idea for ICCA, it would go a _long_
>>way towards promoting it.  I'm betting that it's helped Steven's business a
>>great deal by hosting this CCC forum.
>
>The ICCA could do several initiatives such as "topic of the month" where
>programmers can discuss (for instance) a specific search technique (or
>whatever) into deepest detail. At several times I thought about the
>possibility to open such a board myself (the Programmers Board) but I
>absolutely have no time to do all the work involved to introduce a new
>topic each month and to make an overview of the most important points
>of the topic thereafter.
>
>To setup the board itself is a 5 minutes job as we use the UBB software
>which automatically allows multiple forums. But it should be a lot better
>the ICCA does such a job as it fits them much better.
>
>Ed
>

Ok, I'm greedy, and I like getting things, so I'm sure someone here will hold me
to this, but if ICCA; 1.) starts accepting credit card, and/or (hopefully both!)
2.) Sets up an ICCA message board, then I'll join.

I don't think that's unreasonable.  Am I wrong?  Because those are 2 things that
I believe will benifit them, so, either one or both of those things.  An effort
on their part to be able to survive, and I'll join.

Pete



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