Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:42:17 06/02/00
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On June 02, 2000 at 10:13:35, Albert Silver wrote: >On June 02, 2000 at 02:01:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 02, 2000 at 01:44:29, Pete Galati wrote: >> >>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:58:00, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:18:23, Pete Galati wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:06:40, Rick Luce wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Junior 6 is slated to participate in the Dortmund tournament in July. How well >>>>>>do you think it will do? My guess is that Junior will fare poorly against such >>>>>>a strong field and could easily finish last. >>>>>> >>>>>>By my calculation, Fritz performed at about 2590 level at the Dutch >>>>>>Championship, if you discount the two games which were essentially forfeit wins. >>>>>> If Junior performs at a similar level, it could be in trouble. The competition >>>>>>at Dortmund will be much stronger including the likes of Khalifman, Anand, >>>>>>Huebner, Leko etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>Also, has there been any indication that any of the GMs will refuse to play >>>>>>Junior? >>>>>> >>>>>>-Rick >>>>> >>>>>Do you have a link for a site with info about the tournament? Which Junior? >>>>>What hrdware will it run on. My unqualified opinion, not knowing any answers to >>>>>those questions anyhow, is that Junior will do better than Fritz did. Just a >>>>>gut feeling. >>>>> >>>>>Pete >>>> >>>>I remember that Junior will use 8 processors so it will use better hardware than >>>>the hardware of Fritz. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Thanks, yes, I found this at the Chessbase site; "in the Super-GM tournament it >>>will have an eight-processor system". So Junior should do very well. >>> >>>Pete >> >> >>Don't panic here. 8 cpus is not twice as fast as 4 cpus, in the world of SMP >>searching. > >Yes, meaning it most likely won't even get an extra ply as opposed to 4 cpus >unless they are also using newer and faster processors (like the new 700 Mhz >Xeons) for the occasion. All the same, the matchups are fascinating. It's hard >to say how well it will do but if Xie Jun's games are any indication, Junior may >still be in for some serious trouble. Barring some of the absurdities that took >place, like the operator mistakes, the book problems, etc... Xie Jun did very >well against it, and I expect that these players will most likely make mincemeat >of it. Among other things, I think that contrary to the Dutch championship, all >the players here will be well-prepared against Junior as no one will want to >become its first Super GM scalp. Still, Junior's resilience should help save it >from many difficult positions so I predict a TPR slightly over 2600. > > Albert Silver The new 700 xeons won't go 4-way. To date, the fastest 4-way boxes are based on the 550mhz xeons that are about a year old now. We have been waiting on faster 4-way chips, but Intel has not delivered. The 8-way boxes are huge kludges that even in their best cases don't go 2x faster, just because memory can't keep up. And then there is SMP search inefficiency. I ran on an 8-way box and was not impressed at all (I ran on a 16-way alpha and was impressed out of my mind, however. :) )
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