Author: Pete Galati
Date: 07:52:20 06/02/00
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On June 02, 2000 at 10:42:17, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 02, 2000 at 10:13:35, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On June 02, 2000 at 02:01:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On June 02, 2000 at 01:44:29, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:58:00, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:18:23, Pete Galati wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 02, 2000 at 00:06:40, Rick Luce wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Junior 6 is slated to participate in the Dortmund tournament in July. How well >>>>>>>do you think it will do? My guess is that Junior will fare poorly against such >>>>>>>a strong field and could easily finish last. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>By my calculation, Fritz performed at about 2590 level at the Dutch >>>>>>>Championship, if you discount the two games which were essentially forfeit wins. >>>>>>> If Junior performs at a similar level, it could be in trouble. The competition >>>>>>>at Dortmund will be much stronger including the likes of Khalifman, Anand, >>>>>>>Huebner, Leko etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Also, has there been any indication that any of the GMs will refuse to play >>>>>>>Junior? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Rick >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you have a link for a site with info about the tournament? Which Junior? >>>>>>What hrdware will it run on. My unqualified opinion, not knowing any answers to >>>>>>those questions anyhow, is that Junior will do better than Fritz did. Just a >>>>>>gut feeling. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pete >>>>> >>>>>I remember that Junior will use 8 processors so it will use better hardware than >>>>>the hardware of Fritz. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Thanks, yes, I found this at the Chessbase site; "in the Super-GM tournament it >>>>will have an eight-processor system". So Junior should do very well. >>>> >>>>Pete >>> >>> >>>Don't panic here. 8 cpus is not twice as fast as 4 cpus, in the world of SMP >>>searching. >> >>Yes, meaning it most likely won't even get an extra ply as opposed to 4 cpus >>unless they are also using newer and faster processors (like the new 700 Mhz >>Xeons) for the occasion. All the same, the matchups are fascinating. It's hard >>to say how well it will do but if Xie Jun's games are any indication, Junior may >>still be in for some serious trouble. Barring some of the absurdities that took >>place, like the operator mistakes, the book problems, etc... Xie Jun did very >>well against it, and I expect that these players will most likely make mincemeat >>of it. Among other things, I think that contrary to the Dutch championship, all >>the players here will be well-prepared against Junior as no one will want to >>become its first Super GM scalp. Still, Junior's resilience should help save it >>from many difficult positions so I predict a TPR slightly over 2600. >> >> Albert Silver > > >The new 700 xeons won't go 4-way. To date, the fastest 4-way boxes are based on >the 550mhz xeons that are about a year old now. We have been waiting on faster >4-way chips, but Intel has not delivered. If this accounted for a major share of their market, you know they'd deliver. >The 8-way boxes are huge kludges >that even in their best cases don't go 2x faster, just because memory can't keep >up. And then there is SMP search inefficiency. I ran on an 8-way box and was >not impressed at all (I ran on a 16-way alpha and was impressed out of my mind, >however. :) ) Are there no advantages to the 8cpu boxes in this situation? Pete
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