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Subject: Re: Is there a program with more knowledge about endgames?

Author: Gareth McCaughan

Date: 18:23:14 06/05/00

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On June 04, 2000 at 19:33:45, Albert Silver wrote:

[I said:]
>> By not special-casing positions like this, you adopt the general
>> rule that they're no different from other positions with the same
>> balance of material.
>
> They're not different. If you're a pawn up you should play it unless it's
> already blockaded and clear (or the program has 9-piece tablebases and
> declares it a draw). What difference would it make if without special-case
> knowledge the program judges this at +1.00 or with special-case knowledge
> it lowers this eval to +0.4? In both cases it will believe it has the
> advantage and in both cases will refuse to draw and play it out, only
> in the second case you'll be slowing the program by giving it useless
> special knowledge.

I don't understand this argument. You could say the same thing about
anything in the evaluation. Suppose the program has a choice between
two moves; one leads to this position, the other leads to some other
one-pawn-up position that *is* winnable. The other position evaluates,
let's say, at +0.9. Then it matters whether this one evaluates at
+0.4 or +1.0, no?

>> That's probably wrong more often than, say,
>> deducting half a pawn in positions "like this one" (whatever that
>> might mean).
>
> Who are you quoting when you say that?

No one. The quotes were just to express dissatisfaction with
my own vague terminology.



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