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Subject: Re: Endgame position / running passed pawns

Author: William Bryant

Date: 19:49:03 06/05/00

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On June 05, 2000 at 08:22:44, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>Hi!
>
>This is a position from an interesting standard game MissSilicon - Hossa, played
>today at ICC:
>
>5k2/7K/6P1/1p3p2/1P5P/1Pb5/8/8 w
>
>White is obviously winning. The static evaluation of this position of my program
>is totally wrong because Hossa thinks that the pawn f5 is running. Even after
>some improvements Hossa needs 8 plies to see a positive score!
>
> depth   value    time    nodes pv
>    1    -6.07    0.00        3 1.g7 c3xg7
>  2/1    -3.62    0.00        6 1.h5 c3xb4
>   <1>   -3.62    0.00        7 1.h5 c3xb4
>    2    -3.62    0.00       24 1.h5 c3xb4
>   <2>   -3.62    0.00       40 1.h5 c3xb4
>!   3    -1.77    0.01      544 1.h5 f4 2.h6 c3xb4
>!  <3>   -1.77    0.01      551 1.h5 f4 2.h6 c3xb4
>    4    -1.87    0.03     1214 1.h5 f4 2.h6 f8e8 3.h7g8 c3xb4
>   <4>   -1.87    0.03     1245 1.h5 f4 2.h6 f8e8 3.h7g8 c3xb4
>    5    -1.67    0.05     2303 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6
>   <5>   -1.67    0.05     2375 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6
>    6    -1.81    0.09     4316 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f4
>   <6>   -1.81    0.09     4691 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f4
>    7    -1.81    0.20     9875 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f4
>   <7>   -1.81    0.21    10423 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f4
>!   8     0.76    0.61    31734 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f8g8
>                                4.h6g5
>!  <8>    0.76    0.61    31775 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f8g8
>                                4.h6g5
>!   9     2.19    0.85    47414 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f8g8
>                                4.h6g5 g8f8 5.g5xf5
>!  <9>    2.19    0.85    47456 1.h5 c3g7 2.h6 g7xh6 3.h7xh6 f8g8
>                                4.h6g5 g8f8 5.g5xf5
>
>
>Does your engine perform better here? Any ideas how to handle such positions?
>
>Best wishes,
>Steffen.
>

Screamer picks h5 on ply 5, with a positive score by ply 6.
I have _very_ little endgame evaluation code so this is just searching.

I like Bob's comment about being more concerned with how long it takes to find
the move rather than how deep it takes to get a positive score.

William
wbryant@ix.netcom.com

New Board Position
5k2/7K/6P1/1p3p2/1P5P/1Pb5/8/8 w
Move 1 W>>
PLY       NODES     TIME    SCORE  PV
__________________________________________________
 5/00      1984     0.029   -0.76  Kh6 Bxb4 g7+ Kg8 h5 f4
 5/01      2956     0.085      ++  h5
 5/01      3483     0.116   -0.13  h5 f4 h6 Ke7 g7
 6/00      4793     0.159      ++  h5
 6/00      6586     0.208   +0.65  h5 Ke7 g7 Bxg7 Kxg7 f4 h6
 7/00      9517     0.277   +1.00  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 f4 g7+ Kf7 Kg5 Kxg7 Kxf4
 8/00     13018     0.351   +1.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 f4 g7+ Kg8 Kg6 f3
 9/00     18622     0.449      ++  h5
 9/00     48252     0.925   +2.88  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 Kf8 Kxf5 Ke7
10/00     54925     1.033   +2.98  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 Kf8 Kxf5 Kg7 Kg5
11/00     63323     1.159   +2.88  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 Kg7 Kxf5 Kh6 Kf6
							Kh5
12/00     82246     1.408   +3.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg7 Kf5
13/00    116037     1.824   +3.10  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg7 Kf5 Kh6
14/00    144631     2.181   +3.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Kf5
							Kg7 Kg5 Kf8 Kf4
15/00    191010     2.729   +3.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg7 Kf5 Kf8 Ke6 Kg7
16/00    261528     3.551   +3.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg8 Kf5 Kg7 Kg5 Kf8 Kf4
17/00    508336     6.696   +3.10  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg8 Ke5 Kg7 Kf5
18/00    691540     8.985   +3.10  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg8 Ke5 Kg7 Kf5 Kf8 Kf4 Ke7 g7
19/00   1045871    13.578   +3.10  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg8 Ke5 Kg7 Kf5 Kg8 Kg5 Kg7 Kf5
20/00   1877760    24.343   +3.08  h5 Bg7 h6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Kg8 Kg5 f4 Kxf4 Kh8 Ke4
							Kg8 Ke5 Kg7 Kf5 Kg8 Kf6 Kh8 Ke6 Kg7 Kf5



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