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Subject: Re: A crafty try with a crafty question

Author: Pete R.

Date: 16:19:19 06/06/00

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On June 06, 2000 at 16:00:17, Dann Corbit wrote:

>I think this is a good example to show that "best moves" in EPD test positions
>are only "best moves" for a certain depth unless a checkmate is found.

I wouldn't go quite that far.  For example, after 1. e4 dxe4 in this position,
black is completely lost (assuming best play by white of course).  This is not
obvious to a human or a program, but with sufficient investigation becomes clear
well before any checkmate will be seen.  If I can prove a win for white after
1...Rh8 then odds are extremely high that 1.e4 really is best.  Certainly good
enough in any case.  This involves a backsolving process which I did manually,
essentially determining black's best attempt in each line until the best
variation still ended in defeat.  Not checkmate, but only a matter of time
until.  Just curious, does the CAP project do this sort of backsolving?  If this
sort of investigation could be automated, then the CAP data would clearly "see"
further than any program could expect to.



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