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Subject: Re: Help needed for upcoming Chessmaster Custom Personality Championship

Author: Michael Cummings

Date: 17:22:13 06/06/00

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On June 06, 2000 at 18:41:38, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On June 06, 2000 at 09:57:20, Michael Cummings wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2000 at 06:00:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 2000 at 22:35:45, Michael Cummings wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 05, 2000 at 18:23:51, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The CMQueen+ performs better at time
>>>>>controls between 15 minutes to 60 minutes, it is not the best Speed playing
>>>>>settings for CM6000, but it is considered the best so far, at a slower time
>>>>>control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pichard
>>>>
>>>>I think your statements needed to be cleaned up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>Firstly it is your opinion that CMQueen+ at slower time controls is the best,
>>>>not a widespread opinion.
>>>>
>>>>CM6666 is still just another opinion as to being a strong setting, I believe
>>>>when you asked for the strongest, there were many opinions including mine
>>>>stating what was the best. And you decided to test along the path of CM6666.
>>>>
>>>>Plus testing CM6666 in CM6000 is not the same as testing it in CM7000. Even
>>>>though the same engine is in both programs. CM7K default plays slightly slower
>>>>and different than the default in CM6K.
>>>>
>>>>So what might be a stronger setting in CM6000 could be weaker or even stronger
>>>>in CM7000.
>>>>
>>>>I think if you are going to test CM6666 in CM7000, then you rename it to maybe
>>>>CM7777.
>>>>
>>>>In my testing CM6K default is better than the CM7K default in testing against
>>>>each other. But you will also find opinions against this, basically they are
>>>>suppose to be the same, but they are not, there was some minor changes to the
>>>>engine play. Probably in the default personality settings.
>>>>
>>>>Either play CM6K settings in CM6K or rename them.
>>>
>>>I have never tested CMQueen+ Settings in CM7000, and I did mentioned that SO FAR
>>>it is considered one of the best personality settings for CM6000 not the best,
>>>until it is proven weaker by another personality settings at longer time
>>>control.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>I was not meaning you when I said your settings in CM7K. I was talking about
>>this upcoming tournament. And how if anyone wanted to take part they must have
>>CM7K.
>>
>>But I do stand by my statement in reply to your
>>"but it is considered the best so far"
>>It may be one of the best, I will not argue with your statement there. But in
>>your original post your wording did imply that if it is the best so far, than it
>>is the best currently. That I will argue against.
>
>If you know about a stronger personality than CMQueen+ this is your chance to
>reveal the personality settings and to test it against CMQueen+, but I have not
>seen any personality stronger than CMQueen+ at any time control above 10
>minutes, so far. Another personality that was recommended to me to test against
>CMQueen+ was CM-SS10, whuich is the original ChessMaster but changing the
>selective Search to 10. I Match CM-SS10 vs CMQueen+ and my setting at 30 min per
>side 20 games, beat the CM-SS10 by 6 points. Please reveal your personalities so
>other people have a chance to testit against their personality choice.
>
>Pichard
>>
>>I have no problem with your results, just the wording of some of your
>>statements.
>>
>>One comment I will make to everyone is that I think if anyone is going to test
>>Chessmaster personalities, that they bypass CM7K and use CM6K, apart from being
>>a better program, it is far more stable.

I have done enough CM testing, at 40/2 my testing showed CM6K SS=10 to be the
strongest. I will leave it at that for now



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