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Subject: Re: Help needed for upcoming Chessmaster Custom Personality Championship

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 17:49:48 06/06/00

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On June 06, 2000 at 20:22:13, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On June 06, 2000 at 18:41:38, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2000 at 09:57:20, Michael Cummings wrote:
>>
>>>On June 06, 2000 at 06:00:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 05, 2000 at 22:35:45, Michael Cummings wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 05, 2000 at 18:23:51, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The CMQueen+ performs better at time
>>>>>>controls between 15 minutes to 60 minutes, it is not the best Speed playing
>>>>>>settings for CM6000, but it is considered the best so far, at a slower time
>>>>>>control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard
>>>>>
>>>>>I think your statements needed to be cleaned up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>Firstly it is your opinion that CMQueen+ at slower time controls is the best,
>>>>>not a widespread opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>CM6666 is still just another opinion as to being a strong setting, I believe
>>>>>when you asked for the strongest, there were many opinions including mine
>>>>>stating what was the best. And you decided to test along the path of CM6666.
>>>>>
>>>>>Plus testing CM6666 in CM6000 is not the same as testing it in CM7000. Even
>>>>>though the same engine is in both programs. CM7K default plays slightly slower
>>>>>and different than the default in CM6K.
>>>>>
>>>>>So what might be a stronger setting in CM6000 could be weaker or even stronger
>>>>>in CM7000.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think if you are going to test CM6666 in CM7000, then you rename it to maybe
>>>>>CM7777.
>>>>>
>>>>>In my testing CM6K default is better than the CM7K default in testing against
>>>>>each other. But you will also find opinions against this, basically they are
>>>>>suppose to be the same, but they are not, there was some minor changes to the
>>>>>engine play. Probably in the default personality settings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Either play CM6K settings in CM6K or rename them.
>>>>
>>>>I have never tested CMQueen+ Settings in CM7000, and I did mentioned that SO FAR
>>>>it is considered one of the best personality settings for CM6000 not the best,
>>>>until it is proven weaker by another personality settings at longer time
>>>>control.
>>>>
>>>>Pichard
>>>
>>>I was not meaning you when I said your settings in CM7K. I was talking about
>>>this upcoming tournament. And how if anyone wanted to take part they must have
>>>CM7K.
>>>
>>>But I do stand by my statement in reply to your
>>>"but it is considered the best so far"
>>>It may be one of the best, I will not argue with your statement there. But in
>>>your original post your wording did imply that if it is the best so far, than it
>>>is the best currently. That I will argue against.
>>
>>If you know about a stronger personality than CMQueen+ this is your chance to
>>reveal the personality settings and to test it against CMQueen+, but I have not
>>seen any personality stronger than CMQueen+ at any time control above 10
>>minutes, so far. Another personality that was recommended to me to test against
>>CMQueen+ was CM-SS10, whuich is the original ChessMaster but changing the
>>selective Search to 10. I Match CM-SS10 vs CMQueen+ and my setting at 30 min per
>>side 20 games, beat the CM-SS10 by 6 points. Please reveal your personalities so
>>other people have a chance to testit against their personality choice.
>>
>>Pichard
>>>
>>>I have no problem with your results, just the wording of some of your
>>>statements.
>>>
>>>One comment I will make to everyone is that I think if anyone is going to test
>>>Chessmaster personalities, that they bypass CM7K and use CM6K, apart from being
>>>a better program, it is far more stable.
>
>I have done enough CM testing, at 40/2 my testing showed CM6K SS=10 to be the
>strongest. I will leave it at that for now

Michael you probably have done enough CM testing at 40/2 but you have never
tested CM=10 vs CMQueen+ at any time control.

Pichard



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