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Subject: Re: A crafty try with a crafty question

Author: Pete R.

Date: 09:54:27 06/08/00

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On June 07, 2000 at 06:13:36, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On June 07, 2000 at 05:58:23, blass uri wrote:
>[snip]
>>This is the reason that in many cases humans do not use chess programs to help
>>them in analysis.
>>
>>I trust more a team of human and program than only one of them.
>
>Yet Kasparov pounded the stuffings out of an awesome team and computers spending
>all night chugging away.
>
>A testimony to Kasparov's greatness as a chess player?

He didn't pound the stuffings out of anything.  It was a great game, he was
sweating bullets, and we could have drawn the game if not for the voting system
where any doofus can vote as many times as he likes, whether or not he even
reads the team analysis.  But Kasparov did have computer help in the form of
Deep Junior.  While the World team had theoretically more computing power, it's
not meaningful to just add up the hardware.  He is the world's greatest chess
player, using a computer more powerful than any other single computer being used
in the game, and that's a ferocious combination that a team of amateurs with
computers simply couldn't deal with.  The best analysis on the world team side
came mostly from the strength of humans, Irina Krush and her team, a couple of
IMs, one guy from Finland I think with a name I can't recall exactly (Anatti
Pilajasano or something along those lines) and an American computer science prof
IM Ken Regan, plus the Russian Grandmaster School team with occasional input
from Alexander Khalifman.  There was a strong effort by Peter Karrer I think to
create partial tablebases which would have been awesome had they been available
in time to steer the game.  Then again we would have screwed by the voting
system anyway, where any yahoo can vote any number of times for any move.

In any case Kasparov didn't pound the stuffings out of anything, in fact if you
go to the exhaustive analysis at
http://www.smartchess.com/smartchessonline/smartchessonline/archive/MSNKasparov/index.htm
you can see Kasparov's play was suboptimal.  It was certainly one of the
greatest games ever played, and although it was tainted by the voting system,
Kasparov was deservedly proud of his effort.



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