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Subject: Re: Difficult endgame test position (but solvable for humans!)

Author: blass uri

Date: 12:11:00 06/09/00

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On June 09, 2000 at 13:59:44, blass uri wrote:

>On June 09, 2000 at 12:11:16, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:
>
>>>[D]8/8/Pk5K/2p5/2P1pp2/8/5P1P/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Programs cannot see at evaluation time that black is winning because of
>>>unstoppable pawn.
>>>
>>>If I give them to analyze at 1 ply depth they give a big advantage for white.
>>
>>What do you mean by "big advantage"?
>>
>>"DarkThought WCCC'99" knows about White's unstoppable passed Pawn
>>on h2 and it also knows about the potential breakthrough of the
>>two Black Pawns on e4 and f4. Both somehow cancel each other out
>>in the static evaluation such that the overall score is just the
>>+1 material advantage of White.
>>
>>=Ernst=
>
>Some other programs gave more than +2 for white and in one of the cases(I think
>it was hiarcs7.32) they gave even about +7 pawns at 1 ply depth.
>
>Uri

Here are some scores of chess programs at depth 1

chessmaster6000(7.21)
Hiarcs7.32(7.18)
Fritz5.32(6.16)
Genius3 depth 1 with selective search=0(5.39)
Rebel century1.2a(4.36 and the score at depth 2 is even 7.76 and only at depth 3
becomes negative)
Junior5.9 (3.41)
Crafty17.10(2.97)
CometB20(2.80)
CometB11(2.20)
Junior4.6 (1.78)
Exchess2.51(0.79)

No program can see that white is losing at evlauation time or even at depth 1

Uri



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