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Subject: Re: interesting position

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 03:34:51 06/10/00

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On June 09, 2000 at 22:46:40, leonid wrote:

>On June 09, 2000 at 20:08:37, Jon Dart wrote:
>
>>12 ply is about right to see this, but your node counts are way
>>above what mine are. So, yes, it seems like you are over-extending
>>somehow, or maybe have inefficient move ordering.
>>
>>--Jon
>
>Thank for saying that this position demand 12 plies! I tried it first up to 10
>ply but could not reach indicated response. Expected that, maybe, I have some
>bug more. Just fixed 5 in the last month. Dreamed to end my cleaning work.
>
>On AMD 400Mhz.
>
>Hiarcs look and find indicated response by brute force 8 ply deep. It take 14
>minutes 58 sec. Probably its extensions goes as far as 4 next plies.
>
>My logic find indicated response only 12 ply deep. Search done by brute force.
>No extensions or transpositional tables. Time: 1 hour and 42 minutes. Average
>speed: 200200 nps.
>
>Leonid.


On my PIII-450 Hiarcs 7.32 switches to Qb7 in 102 seconds.  I let the position
run for an hour and a half with the following result:

New position
4r1k1/p4ppp/1pq1P3/3p1PPP/3B1Q2/P4NK1/8/3n4 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:

1...fxe6
  -+  (-4.17)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.Ne5
  -+  (-3.66)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.f6
  -+  (-3.59)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.Qe5
  -+  (-3.32)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.Qe5
  -+  (-3.32)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.h6 exf5 3.hxg7 Qe6
  -+  (-3.52)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
1...fxe6 2.Qe5
  -+  (-3.25)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  11kN
1...fxe6 2.f6 Rc8 3.f7+ Kf8 4.Bxg7+ Kxg7 5.Qf6+ Kf8 6.Qh8+ Ke7 7.Qf6+ Kd6 8.f8Q+
Rxf8 9.Qxf8+ Kc7
  -+  (-2.10)   Depth: 5/20   00:00:01  38kN
1...fxe6 2.f6
  -+  (-1.85)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:02  91kN
1...fxe6 2.f6
  -+  (-1.85)   Depth: 6/23   00:00:02  101kN
1...fxe6 2.f6 Qb7 3.Qd2 gxf6 4.Bxf6 Qb8+ 5.Kh3 Qd6 6.Qxd1 Qxa3
  -+  (-1.94)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:07  300kN
1...fxe6 2.f6
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:11  482kN
1...fxe6 2.f6 Qb7 3.Qc1 gxf6 4.gxf6 e5 5.Nxe5 Rf8 6.Qxd1 Rxf6
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:20  858kN
1...Qb7 2.Qc1 Qe7 3.Qxd1 fxe6 4.Qd3 exf5 5.Qxf5 Qf7 6.Qxf7+ Kxf7
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 8/27   00:01:42  4339kN
1...Qb7 2.Qc1
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 9/27   00:02:57  7491kN
1...Qb7 2.Qc1 Qe7 3.a4 Qf8 4.Qxd1 fxe6 5.f6 gxf6
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 9/29   00:03:26  8697kN
1...Qb7 2.Ne5
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 10/29   00:08:13  20399kN
1...Qb7 2.Ne5 fxe6 3.f6 Rf8 4.Qg4 Qc7 5.Qxe6+
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 10/30   00:11:19  28667kN
1...Qb7 2.Ne5
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 11/30   00:23:01  58378kN
1...Qb7 2.Ne5 fxe6 3.f6 Rf8 4.h6 g6 5.Qg4 Rd8 6.Qxd1 Qc7
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 11/30   00:27:45  70055kN

Ernst.



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