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Subject: Re: interesting position

Author: Jon Dart

Date: 10:07:03 06/10/00

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On June 10, 2000 at 02:15:47, Paulo Soares wrote:

>
>I think that 1...Qb7 don't hold the position for a long time.
>
>1... Qb7 2. Ne5 fxe6 (2... Rf8 3. exf7+ Rxf7 4. Nxf7 Qxf7 5. Qe5 {+-})
>3. f6 Rf8 4. Ng4 {!} Qf7 5. Qe5 {+-}
>
>Paulo Soares, from Brazil


I think you're right about this. After .. Qb7 Ne5,
I let Arasan search for 10 minutes and got:
fxe6 f6 Rf8 h6 g6 Qg4 Qc8 f7+ Rxf7 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxd1 Ke8 Qa4+ Qd7 Qc2
with a score of -0.27. So White at least gets even.

Arasan didn't find 4. Ng4 in this time, but it looks even better.
After Qb7 Ne5 fxe6 f6 Rf8 Ng4:
ply 1.  Qf7     0 seconds.      score:   5.45   12 nodes.
ply 1.  Qf7     0 seconds.      score:   5.45   40 nodes.
ply 2.  Qf7     0 seconds.      score:   5.45   167 nodes.
ply 2.  gxf6    0 seconds.      score:   4.56   292 nodes.
ply 2.  gxf6    0 seconds.      score:   4.56   374 nodes.
ply 3.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.95   2716 nodes.
ply 3.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.95   2852 nodes.
ply 4.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.95   7185 nodes.
ply 4.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.33   7581 nodes.
ply 4.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.33   7641 nodes.
ply 5.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.47   19175 nodes.
ply 6.  Qa6     0 seconds.      score:   4.47   39482 nodes.
ply 6.  Qf7     0 seconds.      score:   2.02   69841 nodes.
ply 6.  Qf7     1 seconds.      score:   2.02   111249 nodes.
ply 7.  Qf7     1 seconds.      score:   2.02   235386 nodes.
ply 7.  Qf7     2 seconds.      score:   1.33   320791 nodes.
ply 8.  Qf7     4 seconds.      score:   0.95   857965 nodes.
ply 9.  Qf7     10 seconds.     score:   0.38   2054324 nodes.
ply 10. Qf7     21 seconds.     score:   0.17   4326982 nodes.
ply 11. Qf7     91 seconds.     score:  -0.27   19241829 nodes.
ply 12. Qf7     292 seconds.    score:  -0.27   63277252 nodes.
ply 12. Qf7     325 seconds.    score:  -0.89   71036714 nodes.
ply 12. Qf7     325 seconds.    score:  -0.89   71155771 nodes.
ply 13. Qf7     600 seconds.    score:  -1.47   132035261 nodes.
220055 nodes/second.
36043267 regular nodes, 95991994 quiescence nodes.
33277903 searches of hash table, 8582857 successful (25 percent).
500000 hash entries inserted, 1926084 entries replaced, 25296389 inserts failed.

search: Qf7     600 seconds.    score: -1.47    132035261 nodes.        ++ corre
ct
Qf7 Qe5

It still takes a long time to see that White is ahead.

--Jon






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