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Subject: Re: Difficult endgame test position (but solvable for humans!)

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 12:25:22 06/10/00

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On June 10, 2000 at 04:23:17, blass uri wrote:
>
>Here is another test position that shows better the importance of knowledge
>about passed pawns.
>
>I composed this position
>
>[D]Q3q3/4k3/8/5p2/2p5/8/P6P/4K3 w - - 0 1
>
>avoid Qxe8+
>
>Century1.2a(p450) can see in less than 5 minutes that Qxe8+ is losing but cannot
>see a better move at least in the first 23 minutes.
>
>I believe that a good evaluation can help to see that white is losing after 2
>plies based on the squares of the pieces.
>
>humans do not know it without search but humans do not have the best evaluation.
>
>Uri

Fritz6a is not quite doing well here, it takes 8 minutes 17 seconds to fail low
(from a high score) and it did not find another move after 4 hours on a P3-450,
128MB hash.


Q3q3/4k3/8/5p2/2p5/8/P6P/4K3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6:

1.Qxe8+
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 5/8   00:00:00  1kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 5/8   00:00:00  1kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 5/8   00:00:00  1kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 5/8   00:00:00  1kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 5/8   00:00:00  1kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ke6 4.Kxc4
  ±  (1.00)   Depth: 6/8   00:00:00  9kN
1.Qxe8+!
  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00  45kN
1.Qxe8+! Kxe8 2.Kd2 f4 3.Kc3 f3 4.Kd2 c3+
  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00  47kN
1.Qxe8+!
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 8/12   00:00:00  57kN
1.Qxe8+! Kxe8 2.Kd2 f4 3.Kc3 f3 4.Kd2 Ke7 5.a4
  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 8/12   00:00:00  59kN
1.Qxe8+!
  ±  (1.22)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:01  501kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 c3 3.a5 Kd7 4.a6 c2 5.Kd2 c1Q+
  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 9/14   00:00:01  508kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 c3
  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 10/16   00:00:02  615kN
1.Qxe8+!
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 11/19   00:00:05  1987kN
1.Qxe8+! Kxe8 2.a4 c3 3.a5 Kd7
  +-  (1.91)   Depth: 11/19   00:00:06  2027kN
1.Qxe8+!
  +-  (1.59)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:07  2600kN
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 c3 3.a5 Kd7 4.a6
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 12/20   00:00:07  2625kN
1.Qxe8+!
  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 13/23   00:00:14  5190kN
1.Qxe8+! Kxe8 2.a4 f4 3.a5 Kd7 4.a6 Kc6 5.h4 Kb6
  +-  (4.00)   Depth: 13/23   00:00:14  5286kN
1.Qxe8+--
  +-  (3.69)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:21  8331kN, tb=2
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 Kc7 4.a6 Kb6 5.h4 Kxa6
  +-  (3.22)   Depth: 14/25   00:00:22  8400kN, tb=2
1.Qxe8+!
  +-  (3.53)   Depth: 15/22   00:00:42  17365kN, tb=19
1.Qxe8+! Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 Kc7 4.a6 Kb6 5.h4 Kxa6
  +-  (4.28)   Depth: 15/25   00:00:43  17535kN, tb=29
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 Kc7 4.h4 c3 5.a6 Kb6
  +-  (4.38)   Depth: 16/25   00:01:29  37973kN, tb=146
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 Kc7 4.h4 c3 5.a6 f4
  +-  (4.66)   Depth: 17/28   00:03:24  87564kN, tb=571
1.Qxe8+--
  +-  (4.34)   Depth: 18/29   00:08:11  209411kN, tb=2342
1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.a4 Kd7 3.a5 c3 4.a6 Kc8 5.h4 f4
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 18/35   00:08:17  211407kN, tb=2798



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