Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Interesting result from SSDF

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 02:16:36 06/12/00

Go up one level in this thread


On June 08, 2000 at 20:46:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 08, 2000 at 16:10:16, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On June 08, 2000 at 15:25:22, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, here's my two cents:
>>>
>>>The most likely estimate for the game outcome is the overall match result
>>>(33.5/41). The probability for any *particular* sequence of 10 games (say the
>>>last 10) to be 10-0 is (33.5/41)^10 = 13.3%.
>>>
>>>If you want probability for any sequence anywhere, the probability is larger, as
>>>you point out.
>>>
>>>If you suspect the 10-0 result, you can argue that the most likely estimate
>>>should discount this result, so this gives you a probability of (23.5/31)^10 =
>>>6.3%.
>>
>>If you use the most likely estimate
>>The probability for 10:0 is smaller than (23.5/31)^10 because there are draws.
>>
>>The result was +20, =7.-4 so if you use the most likely estimate you get
>>probability (20/31) for Junior to win
>>7/31 for a draw and 4/31 for a loss
>>
>>(20/31)^10=0.012493... so the probability is less than 2%
>>
>>I ignored the fact that the white probability is different from the black
>>probability but not ignoring it does not change much the result because you get:
>>
>>(10/15)^5*(10/16)^5 that is 0.012558...
>>
>>If you do not ignore the last 10 games and ignore the colours you get
>>(30/41)^10=0.043992...
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>The thing I am most concerned about is multiple consecutive games.  I don't do
>_any_ testing by having crafty play multiple games.  All of my playing is done
>where for each game, the engine is started completely over.  It is more than
>possible that _if_ a series of games are played with the same version, that
>something bad could happen:  (1) something might not get reset properly;  (b)
>a bug might actually clobber something that will then stay clobbered for many
>games.
>
>I will try to do some testing on this to see if everything seems to be working
>right...  but I am definitely concerned that just sending a "new" to start a new
>game could cause problems...

What I am a little confused is:  Isn't the SSDF list match done with the Crafty
from Chessbase?  As far as I know this engine is restarted before every match.

Jason



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.