Author: Albert Silver
Date: 07:04:36 06/12/00
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On June 11, 2000 at 15:40:23, Hans Gerber wrote:
>>>
>>>'The winner program of Paderborn' it is announced.
>>>
>>>In Paderborn it was not the version SHREDDER 3, but a newer one, probably
>>>version number 4. That World Champion version is sold for 7 US$ right now.
>>
>>Not necessarily. If I buy a recent version of Fritz and it states that it was
>>World Microcomputer Champion in 1995, that doesn't necessarily mean that the
>>engine in it is the one that won that World Championship.
>>
>> Albert Silver
>
>
>Not necessarily?
>
>Ok then. Let me tell you what the cover is telling you.
>
>1. Karpov: "A great program and justified Computer World Champion!"
>
>2. Headline: "World Champion The Computer World Champion of all classes"
>
>3. Stamped on the front in red: "Very good. Testresult in Computerschach+Spiele
>in Febuary 2000"
>
>4. Further on the front cover: "Thze talking program comments your game with the
>original voice of Anatoly Karpov"
>
>5. Gold Medal on the front cover repeating "Computer Chess World Champion 1999"
>
>6. Now the back cover: "The program of the young Stefan Meyer-Kahlen from
>Dortmund triumphed in June 1999 on a usual Pentium PC against the whole
>multiprocessors and Big Machines and became unbeaten Computerchess World
>Champion of all classes."
>
>7. As example of the list of features: "Beginner, Blitz and Tournament levels,
>Solutions for Mate problems. For beginners and experts, up until Grandmaster."
>
>
>Do you still think that this should indicate that it is a very old, almost antic
>program that already has been updated many times since the time of its origin
>success?
>
>
>
>Hans Gerber
As for the characteristics, I cannot say, but truly, it seems as if the program
in question isn't Shredder 3. I presume you bought it for those miserable $7
(said only half-jokingly as that really is very little) at Lidl. Does it say in
the manual or in the program itself the version of Shredder being played (I mean
numerically and not it's curriculum)? I know there are intermediate versions of
program running around. I have a friend who has an official boxed copy of Genius
3.5. Until I saw it, I had never even heard of a Genius 3.5. In any case, you
could also consider testing it on a few positions if the version number is
unclear and compare the results with others. For this you might check out a few
sites where they post the results of many program on varying software such as
Frank Quisinsky's site or Shep's site. I noticed that Brice Boissel gave Frank's
site a very large file with many results, but I haven't looked at it.
Albert Silver
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>
>>>
>>>So, my question is still open. Is that the indication for a successful program
>>>or the selling out of a not so ... program?
>>>
>>>Final question to Mr. Seifriz: how do you call that if there is no version
>>>number 5 out yet and the implication has been made that it is the actually
>>>strongest program (of S. M. K.)? More so if Anatoly Karpov is telling you that
>>>on the front cover...
>>>
>>>
>>>Hans Gerber
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